Brian Downing QuigRe: 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!Sat Sep 14 06:33:39 2002208.152.73.36 Re: 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:28:00 -0700From: "Brian Downing Quig" quig@dcia.com Organization: PRIMARY RESEARCH ASSOCIATESTo: apfn@apfn.org Both of these writers are ringers.BrianAmerican Patriot Friends Network wrote:> 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!> http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=32750>> OpinionJournal - Extra (The Wall Street Journal)> Published in Opinion Journal - Indexed on Sep 5, 2002> OKLAHOMA CITY--With the Sept. 11 anniversary upon us and President Bush> talking about a "regime change" in Iraq, it's an apt time to look at two> investigators who connect Baghdad to two notorious incidents of domestic> terrorism. Jayna Davis, a former television reporter in Oklahoma City,> believes an Iraqi cell was involved in the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P.> Murrah Federal Building here. Middle East expert Laurie Mylroie links Iraq> to the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, and has published> a book on the subject. Both cases are closed, of course--in the public> mind if not quite officially.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com />> ========================================================================>> Making the Iraq Case A rationale for regime change.> (The Wall Street Journal)> Thursday, September 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002216 >> The critics urging President Bush to "make the case" for regime change in Iraq> began to get their wish yesterday, perhaps with more vigor than they bargained> for. Mr. Bush emerged from a meeting with Congressional leaders to declare> that "Saddam is a serious threat," and that "doing nothing about that serious> threat is not an option for the United States.">> The President has also begun to aggressively shape political and diplomatic> events. He declared that he will ask Congress for a resolution of support,> before the November elections, and he will make his case in person to the> United Nations in New York next week.>> He has invited British Prime Minister Tony Blair to Camp David on Saturday,> a meeting that follows Mr. Blair's pointed support for the U.S. stance on> Iraq yesterday. The Prime Minister echoed Mr. Bush's point that "doing> nothing . . . is not an option for the United States" and that much European> criticism is "just straightforward anti-Americanism." So much for the> rgument that the U.S. will have to "go it alone.">> No doubt Mr. Bush's argument in coming days will include Saddam's well known> litany of offenses--trying to assassinate a former U.S. President, stockpiling> biological and chemical weapons and using the latter against the Kurds,> violating multiple U.N. resolutions, and of course trying to accumulate> nuclear weapons. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said more details> on those weapons will be forthcoming as the Iraq debate unfolds.>> If the Administration is serious, and it looks to be, then we also hope its> case includes some recognition of the story reported by Micah Morrison in> The Wall Street Journal today. It distills the facts collected by two dogged> investigators about the role Iraq and Saddam may have played both in the first> World Trade Center attack in 1993 and in the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995.> We know both cases are far from proven in the courtroom sense. But the facts> are suspicious enough that we thought readers deserved to see them laid out> in one place.>> The two cases also bear on the genuine threat that Saddam represents as long> as he remains in power. Opponents of deposing the dictator say he'd be crazy> to use any weapons against the U.S. because he'd be destroyed in retaliation.> But his motive to avenge his Gulf War humiliation is clear enough.>> And in the twilight world of modern terrorism, Saddam can always find others> to deliver that revenge. All he needs is a single cell from al Qaeda or its> successor to smuggle a dirty bomb. His own role could be masked with numerous> cutouts, so that the terrorists themselves don't even know where the weapons> originated. Keep in mind that it took years of investigation to show that> the attempted murder of Pope John Paul II had a Communist provenance.>> This lesson, or warning, ought to be obvious from the continuing puzzle of> last year's anthrax attacks. The FBI persists in pursuing the yellow brick> road theory of a lone madman laid out by Barbara Hatch Rosenberg of the> Federation of American Scientists. But the target of that theory, Steven> Hatfill, has vigorously denied any role and is threatening legal action in> response to the accusations. We'd note that the FAS has since issued a> statement on its Web site distancing itself from Ms. Rosenberg and that> the journalist who broadcast her theories, Nicholas Kristof of the New York> Times, seems to have dropped the subject.>> Meanwhile, the FBI has been dilatory in trying to discover if the September> 11 hijackers were also behind the anthrax letters. Only recently have G-men> returned to the American Media office in Florida that was the site of the> first attack, close to where the hijackers also lived for a time. We know> that Mohamed Atta asked about renting crop dusters and that one of the> hijackers was treated for lesions on his leg that his doctor says were> consistent with anthrax infection. None of this is proof beyond a reasonable> doubt, but it does deserve more serious investigation.>> Larry Eagleburger, once the last defender of a unified Yugoslavia, now> publicly puzzles over the fact that if we think the Iraqi "danger" is so> obvious, "why can't we convince our NATO allies?" Well, apparently Mr. Blair> is now convinced. But the answer for other Europeans is that, unlike during> the Cold War when Europe was on the front-lines, now the U.S. is uniquely> threatened. Only America can project power around the globe in a way that> threatens regional hegemons like Saddam, and September 11 showed that> terrorists now place a special value on striking the U.S. homeland in> catastrophic fashion.>> Facing such a threat, it is virtually impossible to conceive that any plan> to reinstate arms inspectors to Iraq will be enough. Nor does one leaked> White House proposal--for "coercive inspections," meaning inspectors backed> by foreign troops--sound adequate. On this point, we'd disagree with Mr.> Bush's argument yesterday that the "issue is not inspectors, the issue> is disarmament." The real issue is the nature of Saddam's regime. We hope> the leaking of this option doesn't mean that Mr. Bush will settle for> something less than the "regime change" he and Vice President Dick Cheney> have so clearly called for.>> As Mr. Bush said yesterday, "today the process starts." It shouldn't stop> until Iraq's people and the world are liberated from Saddam's terror> threat.>> RESPONDING TO THE ABOVE:> No Sane Person Wants War - Matthew Goggins - The Bronx, New York> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/responses.html?article_id=110002216>> Ukrainian leader 'sold Iraq arms' — INTEL> http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=32724> ==========================================================================>> CONNECTION 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING> The Terrorist Motel> The I-40 connection between Zacarias Moussaoui and Mohamed Atta> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_motel.htm>> Was Tim McVeigh an agent (CID) of Iraq? Top Defense officials> think so, reports U.S. News> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25061>> Middle East-OKC connection David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored'> warnings of WTC attacks> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008>> OpinionJournal - From the Heartland> Published in Opinion Journal - Indexed on Sep 3, 2002> FROM THE HEARTLAND The Backlash That Wasn't Why does the press keep hyping> nonexistent threats to Arab civil rights? BY THOMAS J. BRAY Tuesday,> September 3, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT When a federal grand jury in Detroit last> week announced the indictment of four Middle Eastern men on terrorist> conspiracy charges, the story naturally received page one coverage. But,> in what has become almost a ritual, the local press quickly followed up> with articles averring that not all Muslims are terrorists, that> Arab-Americans are good patriots like everybody else and that Islam is> a compassionate, not a violent, faith.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/>> The Sacramento Bee -- sacbee.com -- No time to be called Osama> Published in Sacramento Bee - Indexed on Sep 3, 2002> 'Discreet' is the word for capital-area workers bearing the common Arab name.> By Cathleen Ferraro -- Bee Staff WriterPublished 5:30 a.m. PDT Monday,> November 19, 2001 Some names are difficult to pronounce, others even trickier> to spell. But it's hard to think of a more trying name to live with these> days -- despite its rather easy spelling and pronunciation -- than "Osama."> That's the reality for Osama Ali, a manager trainee at a Sacramento Hertz> Rent-A-Car, who hasn't worn a name tag since Sept. 11 and recently joked with> co-workers at a regional meeting that his name is Bill.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/ " http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/ >> Comment> Published in The Globe and Mail - Indexed on Sep 1, 2002 April 19, 1995, was> the day the United States of America learned the true power of terrorism, that> a massive, unexpected strike can take place any where at any time, even on a> fine spring morning in a place many barely knew existed. It was in Oklahoma> City where they also learned that weapons of destruction can seem almost as> senseless -- a rented truck filled with fertilizer here, box cutters and> airline schedules one year ago in New York and Washington -- as the> devastation itself. Paul Howell believes he watched his daughter Karan, an> angel-faced 27-year-old banker with two young daughters, die on television.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/>> OKLAHOMA BOMBING COVER-UP> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_coverup.htm>> 9-11 ATTACK ON AMERICA> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC.htm>> Secrets of the Federal Reserve -- Here It Is, Ladies and> Gentleman -- a Free Download of Eustace Mullins' Suppressed Book> THIS BOOK HAS BEEN BURNED BY THE US GOVT. WE HOPE YOU APPRECIATE> THE WORK OF EUSTACE MULLINS> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm>> General Ashcroft's Detention Camps — Nat Hentoff> `In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.'> http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/149495.html http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm BRIAN DOWNING QUIG, ANOTHER PATRIOT DEAD! http://www.apfn.net/dcia/bmain.htm "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" G.W. BUSH, Sat Sep 14 07:31 'Conspiracy Theories' and Clandestine Politics Jeffrey M. 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Brian Downing QuigRe: 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!Sat Sep 14 06:33:39 2002208.152.73.36 Re: 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:28:00 -0700From: "Brian Downing Quig" quig@dcia.com Organization: PRIMARY RESEARCH ASSOCIATESTo: apfn@apfn.org Both of these writers are ringers.BrianAmerican Patriot Friends Network wrote:> 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING...CONNECT THE SPINNING DOTS!> http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=32750>> OpinionJournal - Extra (The Wall Street Journal)> Published in Opinion Journal - Indexed on Sep 5, 2002> OKLAHOMA CITY--With the Sept. 11 anniversary upon us and President Bush> talking about a "regime change" in Iraq, it's an apt time to look at two> investigators who connect Baghdad to two notorious incidents of domestic> terrorism. Jayna Davis, a former television reporter in Oklahoma City,> believes an Iraqi cell was involved in the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P.> Murrah Federal Building here. Middle East expert Laurie Mylroie links Iraq> to the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, and has published> a book on the subject. Both cases are closed, of course--in the public> mind if not quite officially.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com />> ========================================================================>> Making the Iraq Case A rationale for regime change.> (The Wall Street Journal)> Thursday, September 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002216 >> The critics urging President Bush to "make the case" for regime change in Iraq> began to get their wish yesterday, perhaps with more vigor than they bargained> for. Mr. Bush emerged from a meeting with Congressional leaders to declare> that "Saddam is a serious threat," and that "doing nothing about that serious> threat is not an option for the United States.">> The President has also begun to aggressively shape political and diplomatic> events. He declared that he will ask Congress for a resolution of support,> before the November elections, and he will make his case in person to the> United Nations in New York next week.>> He has invited British Prime Minister Tony Blair to Camp David on Saturday,> a meeting that follows Mr. Blair's pointed support for the U.S. stance on> Iraq yesterday. The Prime Minister echoed Mr. Bush's point that "doing> nothing . . . is not an option for the United States" and that much European> criticism is "just straightforward anti-Americanism." So much for the> rgument that the U.S. will have to "go it alone.">> No doubt Mr. Bush's argument in coming days will include Saddam's well known> litany of offenses--trying to assassinate a former U.S. President, stockpiling> biological and chemical weapons and using the latter against the Kurds,> violating multiple U.N. resolutions, and of course trying to accumulate> nuclear weapons. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said more details> on those weapons will be forthcoming as the Iraq debate unfolds.>> If the Administration is serious, and it looks to be, then we also hope its> case includes some recognition of the story reported by Micah Morrison in> The Wall Street Journal today. It distills the facts collected by two dogged> investigators about the role Iraq and Saddam may have played both in the first> World Trade Center attack in 1993 and in the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995.> We know both cases are far from proven in the courtroom sense. But the facts> are suspicious enough that we thought readers deserved to see them laid out> in one place.>> The two cases also bear on the genuine threat that Saddam represents as long> as he remains in power. Opponents of deposing the dictator say he'd be crazy> to use any weapons against the U.S. because he'd be destroyed in retaliation.> But his motive to avenge his Gulf War humiliation is clear enough.>> And in the twilight world of modern terrorism, Saddam can always find others> to deliver that revenge. All he needs is a single cell from al Qaeda or its> successor to smuggle a dirty bomb. His own role could be masked with numerous> cutouts, so that the terrorists themselves don't even know where the weapons> originated. Keep in mind that it took years of investigation to show that> the attempted murder of Pope John Paul II had a Communist provenance.>> This lesson, or warning, ought to be obvious from the continuing puzzle of> last year's anthrax attacks. The FBI persists in pursuing the yellow brick> road theory of a lone madman laid out by Barbara Hatch Rosenberg of the> Federation of American Scientists. But the target of that theory, Steven> Hatfill, has vigorously denied any role and is threatening legal action in> response to the accusations. We'd note that the FAS has since issued a> statement on its Web site distancing itself from Ms. Rosenberg and that> the journalist who broadcast her theories, Nicholas Kristof of the New York> Times, seems to have dropped the subject.>> Meanwhile, the FBI has been dilatory in trying to discover if the September> 11 hijackers were also behind the anthrax letters. Only recently have G-men> returned to the American Media office in Florida that was the site of the> first attack, close to where the hijackers also lived for a time. We know> that Mohamed Atta asked about renting crop dusters and that one of the> hijackers was treated for lesions on his leg that his doctor says were> consistent with anthrax infection. None of this is proof beyond a reasonable> doubt, but it does deserve more serious investigation.>> Larry Eagleburger, once the last defender of a unified Yugoslavia, now> publicly puzzles over the fact that if we think the Iraqi "danger" is so> obvious, "why can't we convince our NATO allies?" Well, apparently Mr. Blair> is now convinced. But the answer for other Europeans is that, unlike during> the Cold War when Europe was on the front-lines, now the U.S. is uniquely> threatened. Only America can project power around the globe in a way that> threatens regional hegemons like Saddam, and September 11 showed that> terrorists now place a special value on striking the U.S. homeland in> catastrophic fashion.>> Facing such a threat, it is virtually impossible to conceive that any plan> to reinstate arms inspectors to Iraq will be enough. Nor does one leaked> White House proposal--for "coercive inspections," meaning inspectors backed> by foreign troops--sound adequate. On this point, we'd disagree with Mr.> Bush's argument yesterday that the "issue is not inspectors, the issue> is disarmament." The real issue is the nature of Saddam's regime. We hope> the leaking of this option doesn't mean that Mr. Bush will settle for> something less than the "regime change" he and Vice President Dick Cheney> have so clearly called for.>> As Mr. Bush said yesterday, "today the process starts." It shouldn't stop> until Iraq's people and the world are liberated from Saddam's terror> threat.>> RESPONDING TO THE ABOVE:> No Sane Person Wants War - Matthew Goggins - The Bronx, New York> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/responses.html?article_id=110002216>> Ukrainian leader 'sold Iraq arms' — INTEL> http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=32724> ==========================================================================>> CONNECTION 9/11 - IRAQ - OKC BOMBING> The Terrorist Motel> The I-40 connection between Zacarias Moussaoui and Mohamed Atta> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_motel.htm>> Was Tim McVeigh an agent (CID) of Iraq? Top Defense officials> think so, reports U.S. News> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25061>> Middle East-OKC connection David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored'> warnings of WTC attacks> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008>> OpinionJournal - From the Heartland> Published in Opinion Journal - Indexed on Sep 3, 2002> FROM THE HEARTLAND The Backlash That Wasn't Why does the press keep hyping> nonexistent threats to Arab civil rights? BY THOMAS J. BRAY Tuesday,> September 3, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT When a federal grand jury in Detroit last> week announced the indictment of four Middle Eastern men on terrorist> conspiracy charges, the story naturally received page one coverage. But,> in what has become almost a ritual, the local press quickly followed up> with articles averring that not all Muslims are terrorists, that> Arab-Americans are good patriots like everybody else and that Islam is> a compassionate, not a violent, faith.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/>> The Sacramento Bee -- sacbee.com -- No time to be called Osama> Published in Sacramento Bee - Indexed on Sep 3, 2002> 'Discreet' is the word for capital-area workers bearing the common Arab name.> By Cathleen Ferraro -- Bee Staff WriterPublished 5:30 a.m. PDT Monday,> November 19, 2001 Some names are difficult to pronounce, others even trickier> to spell. But it's hard to think of a more trying name to live with these> days -- despite its rather easy spelling and pronunciation -- than "Osama."> That's the reality for Osama Ali, a manager trainee at a Sacramento Hertz> Rent-A-Car, who hasn't worn a name tag since Sept. 11 and recently joked with> co-workers at a regional meeting that his name is Bill.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/ " http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/ >> Comment> Published in The Globe and Mail - Indexed on Sep 1, 2002 April 19, 1995, was> the day the United States of America learned the true power of terrorism, that> a massive, unexpected strike can take place any where at any time, even on a> fine spring morning in a place many barely knew existed. It was in Oklahoma> City where they also learned that weapons of destruction can seem almost as> senseless -- a rented truck filled with fertilizer here, box cutters and> airline schedules one year ago in New York and Washington -- as the> devastation itself. Paul Howell believes he watched his daughter Karan, an> angel-faced 27-year-old banker with two young daughters, die on television.> http://timothymcveigh.newstrove.com/>> OKLAHOMA BOMBING COVER-UP> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_coverup.htm>> 9-11 ATTACK ON AMERICA> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC.htm>> Secrets of the Federal Reserve -- Here It Is, Ladies and> Gentleman -- a Free Download of Eustace Mullins' Suppressed Book> THIS BOOK HAS BEEN BURNED BY THE US GOVT. WE HOPE YOU APPRECIATE> THE WORK OF EUSTACE MULLINS> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm>> General Ashcroft's Detention Camps — Nat Hentoff> `In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.'> http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/149495.html http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm
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