Preston Peet
RE: RED DAWN
Sun Jun 29 19:43:14 2003
208.152.73.125

Hi all,
As you might notice as you read through this lengthy response from me,
this message has raised my ire, a lot. (Please feel free to pass this on to
whomever and where ever you see fit if you so desire.)
Not to sound too argumentative, but doesn't the Bush administration, or
heck, even the Clinton administration when it was in office, come across as
a LOT more threatening to our way of life, you know, those life, liberty and
pursuit of happiness things, than any alleged Chinese threat does?
What in the heck is this: "...I heard some disturbing rumors. People
were supposedly seeing Chinese soldiers in the Mexican desert. At least one
Texan decided to go down and look for himself. He didn't make it back
alive." Is there a name to go with this disappeared person, apparently now
dead person?
I'm sorry, but a supposed Chinese threat comes across to me as something
not to be overly concerned about, not when the current Bush administration
has done everything in its power to hinder a real investigation into what in
the hell happened before, during and after September 11, 2001's terror
attacks on my city ( http://www.drugwar.com/pprewtcwarnings.shtm  - be sure to
check out the photos I took of this horrorshow from my rooftop less than a
mile away from the WTC, on my birthday)
and the Pentagon? The Bush family has a long and sordid history of doing
business with US enemies, including the Chinese, (who aren't necessarily
enemies, but are "different" than me) with Bush 41 even giving the Chinese
some business exemptions 3 weeks after Tiannenmen Square (sp?) massacres, so
that Loral and others could sell the Chinese satellite launching technology?
(Clinton apparently did similar things, following in the footsteps of his
predecessor.)

Who is it exactly I'm supposed to be worried about again?
It isn't Chinese invaders, at least not to my open and enquiring mind.

To illustrate my position on the Chinese "threat", here's a slightly older
article I wrote, which is followed at the supplied URL by lots of links so
others can check my research sources and reach their own conclusions (and
this was obviously written just before Wen Ho Lee was actually arrested and
held in jail for some insane amount of time, what, a year or so wasn't it?
The publication date is also wrong, the one here being when it was reposted
after a site overhaul, not when originally published.):

http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id229/pg1/

is china buying or spying?
by Preston Peet ( ptpeet@cs.com ) - February 19, 2001

China is spying on the US, stealing its technology!
This is a hot story in the press and for some politicians. This seems a
rather archaic hysteria-generating tactic to get more money guaranteed to
the Military-Industrial Complex for more heavy weaponry to out-destroy
everyone else's big guns and missiles. Those big guns and missiles that
corporations like Lockheed Martin are bragging about designing on prime-time
television, equating their new fighter planes with "looking to the future."
Especially when US, European, and Israeli governments and corporations have
been selling China super-sophisticated technology for years.

On December 30th 1998, Channel 23's USA network news, there was quick
mention of the conclusion reached by the Senate Subcommittee investigating
technology transfers to China. The blurb, played over pictures of a missile
launch, informed the viewer that the committee had decided that YES, laws
were broken, and that the sales and transfers of said technology violated US
National Security laws. Unfortunately that was it, an extremely fast news
update, and then the soundbite was gone. Nothing more about it anywhere on
the TV.

Just one month after the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, then-President
George Bush, whose son is being actively sold as the Republican choice for
President in 2000, sent two American envoys to Peking to meet with the
Chinese government to reaffirm US business ties to China in secret, Brent
Scowcroft, then the National Security Advisor, and Lawrence Eagleberger, the
US Deputy Secretary of State. Both of these men had worked for Dr. Henry
Kissinger's consulting firm, Kissinger Associates. Neither man would make
public his business associates at their confirmation hearings before
Congress, but they were confirmed anyway. Kissinger wrote Richard Nixon's
China initiatives back in the early 1970s, and Bush's brother Prescott
worked for a large consulting firm involved in big business deals with the
Chinese government at that time.

In November 1989, US Congress had passed even more specific sanctions
against China, barring sales and exports of satellite technology unless the
President found that it was "in the national interest." On December 19th
1989, Bush lifted the sanctions citing "national interest." Two months
earlier Bush had okayed 'preliminary licenses' for Hughes Aircraft to
exchange data with the Chinese, to ensure that the satellites met the
technical specifications for the required launch systems.

Speaking of spying, the U.S. has made a point of spying on China for quite
some time, being one of the National Security Agency's top priorities ever
since 1952 (when the NSA was founded). John Pike, an intelligence expert at
the Federation of American Scientists, quoted in an article by NBC News
investigative reporter/producer Robert Windrem, says that it is a great
advantage to have the Chinese rely on technology made by Loral, and Hughes,
and launched by Chinese rockets. Loral and Hughes both sold technologies to
China, to help with the satellite launches. Neither had it stolen from them.
Both had the permission of the US Government to sell the technology. There
was money to be made, and those willing to exploit the opportunity jumped at
the chance.

Think about it. If there were any basis for the claims that Nuclear
Scientist Wen Ho Lee, of Taiwanese/Chinese descent, had really stolen
nuclear technology at Los Alamos Laboratory, if there was any real proof
that he had transferred stuff over the computer (as has been alleged in the
press) would this guy still be free, living at home with his family? No. The
government would have Lee up on charges faster than one could say Aldrich
Ames, facing life in prison, if not execution.
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(remember, there are a good number of links following this essay at the URL
above, so be sure to check them out if you want more info on this topic.)

As I noted above, I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm honestly trying
to figure out why some people are claiming to be so worried about the
Chinese when we have such openly fascistic, whitecollar mafiosi running our
government here at home right now, today.

Oh, and another couple of things: >(2) Communist bloc troops are in Mexico.

Um, and where are armed US troops stationed? In how many countries around
the globe? More than any other country on Earth, no? Are they in all these
countries for benevolent reasons? To protect our freedoms here at home?
(Think Patriot Acts I and II, the War on Some Drugs and Users, and lots of
other nasty un-Americanisms commited by this and previous US administrations
over the years) What do you all suppose the Chinese think of all the US
troops stationed in so many countries surrounding China? Do you think
there's a chance that some researchers there are publishing exactly the same
kind of articles, only in Chinese about the oh so threatening US troops
moving in on them?

>As some readers no doubt realize, Gulbransen's information supports my own
assertion that the communist world is preparing a military offensive against
the United States.

LOL!!! Sorta like how the Ruskies invaded Afghanistan...6 months after the
US was sureptiously supplying and arming and training Muslim fundementalist
radical terror-types in Afghanistan, including that nasty killler Osama Bin
Laden? Remember him? The one whose family apparently helped GW Bush clear
his first millions by putting up money for his baseball team? Commie threat?
I mean, who is it exactly that has troops stationed all over the world, has
itself a "preemptive strike" policy now in place and is actually discussing
using nuclear weapons on the battlefield today, not to mention actually uses
DU on (and off) the battlefield today, and who sprayed our own troops with
Agent Orange in Vietnam then lied about the effects for years, (not to
mention lying about the reasons for that particular nasty little war to
begin with) denying our troops the medical and financial aid to combat those
ill effects? Who left so many of our troops behind in Vietnam, and has
openly admitted it? (
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/pows-defense-secs.htm ) Which government had
men who sold missiles to terrorist supporting nations like Iran, some of
whom were convicted for lying about it, and who now innundate our government
today (such as Poindexter, in charge of that oh so American agency, the
Total Info Awareness, and lots more criminals too)? Who allowed Isreal to
bomb the shit out of the USS Liberty then ordered the men who were attacked
into silence? Which government is in league with foreign, victim-boiling
madmen government leaders? ( http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/us-and-uz.htm )
Who is spraying mad amounts of poisons on the peasants in Colombia and
Ecuador and maybe Peru? ( http://www.drugwar.com/pdyncorplawsuit.shtm  ) Who
gave $43 million in humanitarian aid to the Taliban in May 2001 for
destroying their poppy crops then put the Northern Alliance in power, you
know, the folk who for the last year of Taliban rule controlled the 10
percent of Afghanistan where poppies still flourished, and who since US
troops entered the country have pumped out for 2 years now record poppy crop
figures,
( http://www.nzherald.co.nz/latestnewsstory.cfm?storyID=3508075&thesection=news&thesubsection=world&thesecondsubsection=latest  )
and which government was it that just recently met with the Taliban
representatives to see about getting their help in stabilizing the country?
( http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/061403J.shtml )
Military invasion of the US by commies simply seems the least of our
worries, at least to me, and really comes across to me as seriously
disturbing distraction and disinfo, designed to divert our attention from
the murderous criminals in charge of my government today, right this moment,
and more, turns my stomach I must say, in as friendly and polite a manner as
possible!
Of course, if someone can convince me otherwise, without my having to
shell out my hard earned money for this book advertised in the email I'm
responding to, (when I don't have health coverage and can't get it, because
my government keeps spending my taxes on a corrupt, bloated
militaryindustriallawenforcmentprison complex, while giving themselves
sickening raises and building themselves sumptious palaces and palatial
homes as it does everything in its power to enrich its members and their
greedy corporate warmongering/profiteering buddies) I'm always willing to
take a look at the evidence.

Peace,
Preston Peet
editor http://www.drugwar.com
editor at large High Times mag/com

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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RED DAWN
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:58:33 -0500
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>From People's Awareness Coalition http://www.pacinlaw.org

"There is tranquility in ignorance, but servitude is its partner."



Scott Gulbransen

The Silent Invasion
Thu Jun 26 14:27:13 2003
208.152.73.123

The Silent Invasion
By Scott Gulbransen - scott@thesilentinvasion.com
Counting Coup Press, Inc.
http://www.thesilentinvasion.com/

Thanks to ALEX JONES for having Scott on his show Monday, June 23. Scott
talked about some new stories that didn't make it into The Silent Invasion
and some of the recent troubles and threats he's dealt with as a result of
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In November 1998, while traveling through Texas, I heard some disturbing
rumors. People were supposedly seeing Chinese soldiers in the Mexican
desert. At least one Texan decided to go down and look for himself. He
didn't make it back alive. Then came a curious story, forwarded to me by the
editor of a national publication. A woman in Texas reported that her
relatives had warned against returning to the family's ranch in Mexico.
Foreign soldiers were said to be there. It wouldn't be safe coming in
contact with them. When she traveled to Mexico and met with her relatives
the woman learned that the strangers were Asians who were preparing to
attack the United States.

Scott Gulbransen is a writer who went to Mexico and talked with people about
Chinese troops. He collected stories from border patrol officers, from
Mexican policemen, fishermen and others. The testimony he gathered suggests
that a military supply operation is underway in Mexico. Here are the
mainpoints:

(1) China is pumping arms, ammunition, men and uniforms into Baja California
through the port of Ensanada. "The fishermen of Ensanada know something is
going on," says Gulbransen. "They've seen it with their own eyes. But no one
listens to poor fishermen. They're dirty drunks who smell like the fish they
catch. They might be the first to witness the Chinese move on the United
States but no one will listen."

(2) Communist bloc troops are in Mexico. There are small military
encampments in the Mexican desert where troops from various communist
countries are based. Judging by the rifle ammunition used, these are highly
trained special troops from Cuba, North Korea, China and possibly Russia.
They appear to operate in mixed groups (ethnically combined). According to
witnesses, Mexican officials receive cash bribes for helping to maintain and
conceal these troops. Anyone who threatens to expose the operation faces
death.

(3) Chinese military supplies are being smuggled into the United States.
According to border patrol officers, U.S. officials are allowing trucks from
Mexico carrying Chinese ammunition to pass the border without question. This
only makes sense if officials responsible for the border are in the pay of
Red China. Border patrol officers who've tried to blow the whistle have been
frightened into silence. One officer died in a suspicious car accident after
telling Gulbransen that she feared for her life. At one border crossing
alone, 30 to 40 trucks loaded with Chinese military supplies were entering
the United States per day. It would appear that the Chinese are setting up
ammunition dumps for troops or insurgents throughout the Southwest.

(4) Communist guerrillas in Mexico expect that the United States will soon
be brought to its knees. "I am the leader of the La Conquidistas," a Mexican
guerrilla told Gulbransen. The plan is to take Mexico from the "imperialist
pigs of the U.S. that hold the Mexican people in poverty." The guerrilla
chief added that "Fidel Castro is the only brave man to stand up to you."
When Gulbransen suggested the Conquidistas needed more than AK-47s to fight
the United States, the chief explained that the Mexican people are
resourceful. And besides this, Mexico has "friends throughout the world who
would help us." As Gulbransen was leaving the secret meeting place, the
guerrilla boss said: "You tell the fat Americans about the real Mexico. You
tell them their day to pay is coming fast. Coming very fast."

There are further details in this story, but readers will have to purchase
Gulbransen's book and learn for themselves. The web site for ordering the
book is http://www.thesilentinvasion.com/ . To the author