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Radio Host Alex Jones Listener Incarcerated
Sun Apr 20 02:58:29 2003
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Radio Host Alex Jones Listener Incarcerated For Believing Alex Jones

Contact Tim Wingate 630-782-0156 for further information
Email Befreenow1@aol.com  or seizeliberty@attbi.com

For Immediate Release

This is the first case that I am aware of, of an Alex Jones listener who has been arrested and taken into mental health custody because he has believed in and promoted Alex Jone's tapes and materials.

I have an interview with Bob this morning and I have it on tape. I have his permission to distribute this information as widely as possible. I can make a copy and send it to you if you are interested.

I am also available to interview live or on tape concerning this as well.

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Friends this is an EMERGENCY ACTION REQUEST

A friend of ours Robert J. More has been involuntarily taken into custody by the Chicago police on a petition signed by a sibling with whom he is having a legal contention.

According to Illinois law anyone can swear out under oath that an involuntary emergency commitment to a mental health facility needs to be done in the interest of protecting that person from harming himself or others.

The sibling cited that Robert's belief in what radio host Alex Jones Alex Jones - http://www.infowars.com promulgates is EVIDENCE that he is PARANOID, DELUSIONAL AND A DANGER TO HIMSELF AND/OR OTHERS.

She has used Robert's essay (included below) as evidence of his "mental illness."

Also, according to the law the petitioner swears that they are NOT involved in litigation with the person. She is.

The judge allowed hearsay and conclusions of law without rebuttal presented by State's Attorney Arthur Samuels based on the sibling's perjured affidavit.

The penalty for lying on the petition is only a class A misdemeanor. She lives out of state only coming into Illinois to sign and swear to this petition.

The rest of Robert More's family supports him and not the actions of the sister.

After a hearing on 4/17/03 the State of Illinois sought a continuance on the matter. He is being held over until 4/24/2003 when he is scheduled for another hearing before a judge.

This man is a legal activist for freedom and is a prolific writer. He is involved in litigation against the City of Chicago and Cook County. Therefore the family is concerned that the "powers that be" may hold him until they can create grounds to neutralize his litigation efforts.

His website is hyperlinked here and below. Thirst For Justice Website http://www.geocities.com/thirstforjustice/Categories_Index.htm

I may not agree with him on all his positions, however it is his RIGHT to believe and live according to his faith and his rights should not be infringed, even by a disagreeing family member.

Every one of you is subject to this law. What would happen to your insurance rates if your "temporary holding for psychiatric evaluation" became known? How about your job? How about job promotions? Reputation? With the new super databases that even the airlines want access to determine if you are "fit to fly" will this information be secure?

Totalitarian regimes have often used a person eccentricities as an excuse to incarcerate thereby incapacitating political dissidents.

The Illinois law is still especially pernicious even with the changes in 2000 brought on by the Shirley Allen debacle in Roby, IL in 1997.

Here is the revised Illinois Law Public Act 91-0787 of the 91st General Assembly

Here are some sites that deal with abuse of these laws.
The Antipsychiatry Coalition
Chicago Consortium for Stigma Research

Here is the simple request we have concerning this matter:

Please call the State's Attorney's Office 312-603-8600 - File a complaint against State's Atty. Arthur Samuels for pushing this matter without diligent investigation of the allegations and demand that Robert J. More be released, or held with NO UNMONITORED ACTIVITY and NO DRUGS. ADMINISTERED.

We know how many political prisoners have been harmed thus while in these institutions.

Secondly call the John J. Madden Mental Health Center, 708 338-7400, 1200 S 1st Av, Hines, IL 60141, and inquire about Robert J. More's safety and demand the same things, held with NO UNMONITORED ACTIVITY and NO DRUGS. ADMINISTERED.

Thirst For Justice Website http://www.geocities.com/thirstforjustice/Categories_Index.htm

Robert J. More's essay that his sister has used as evidence to show "mental illness" is included below.

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"RESCUE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD" AND LIBERATE AMERICA

By Robert J. More

"RESCUE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD" AND LIBERATE AMERICA - OR - ELSE AT LEAST COLLECT A $1000 REWARD FOR DEMONSTRATING THAT NO MORAL LAW-ABIDING PERSON HAS ANYTHING TO FEAR FROM GEORGE W.BUSH AND THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL & SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT IN REGARD TO YOUR RESPONSE TO IT, SO IT CAN BE SEEN THAT YOU ARE NOT JUST ANOTHER SYCHOPHANT QUISLING INGRATE WHO WILL PERMIT YOUR NEIGHBORS TO BE MURDERED WHILE YOU REFUSE TO PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE TO PREVENT THE COMMISSION OF SUCH TYPE CRIMES AND ATROCITIES - IN NUTSHELL - SHOW ME THAT "GEORGE W." IS NOT DIRECTING THE OF STAGING AN AM"BUSH" ON NOT ONLY ME, BUT YOU!!

Revised as of 3/23/03
A thousand dollar reward has been established for anyone who can accomplish the objective explicated in the second paragraph of this document.

For starters, can anyone answer even just one of the following six questions? Presuming that if the true intentions of U.S. President George W. Bush and all of those employed by the federal government in its various branches is to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks then;

1. why has the U.S. Mexican border remained in a condition that can only be identified to constitute an unprotected status since 9/11/01, with thousands of Mexicans, Russians, Czechs, Chinese, Middle Eastern people, Indians, etc, etc and violent felons of every nationality being permitted to enter the U.S. each day, without any authorization from any government entity?,

2. why has the rate of pay for border patrol guards been cut, while other government entities have received massive increases in funding?

3. why are law enforcement personnel employed in the U.S. being offered $85, 000 to $96, 000 per year to leave their jobs in America and go on foreign U.N. "peacekeeping" missions?,

4. why is the U.S. Military actively recruiting (ala Hitler) immigrants convicted of every sort of violent crime in other countries to join it? Finally, why prior to 9/11/2001, did Bush issue Executive Order W1-999, threatening with arrest any FBI agent who interfered with the activity of members of Al Qaeda?

5. Are these the type of measures that would be implemented to protect Americans?

6. In the story "Little Red Riding Hood" could a sane person justify believing that it was it to "protect" Little Red Riding Hood that the canis lupus (wolf) specimen, pretending to be her grandmother, invited her to get into her grandmother's bed?

On to the $1000 dollar challenge:

My objective when I started my investigation of the matters addressed herein infra, was to prove Alex Jones Sherman Skolnick and the "conspiracy theorists" - the people who were intimating or outrightly calling George Bush and the International Banking Cartel for whom he and the rest of the individuals employed by the federal government allegedly actually work ("Bush et al"),

(a) treasonist(s) and (a) mass-murderer(s) after the events of WTC I, OK C B, WTC II-9/11/2001, wrong about the innumerable claims that had been made in regard to matters which so critically affect the lives, prospects, and destinies of each and of all (ie an attempted Globalist takeover of the U.S. & the world), without even a single exception, of the world's present inhabitants, and of all persons yet to be born into this vale of tears that is the Post-Eden human condition, and ….(the conclusion of this sentence is at the end of the CONCLUSION)

PREFACE
According to the directives and correlative prescriptions present in among other places in scripture, Rom 13:1-7, RJM is predilected on a natural basis to a conspicuously substantial extent, to respect, trust and obey " U.S. President" George W. Bush and the rest of the individuals directing the government of the united States of America at this juncture in her history ("Bush et al").

However, based upon the evidence that Alex Jones and others have presented in regard to the number of issues addressed in this document infra, RJM does not see how anyone could morally justify respecting, trusting or obeying Bush et al (except to continue to obey in certain circumstances and according to certain norms according to the principles of cooperation in evil that have long been employed by credible moralists in assessing the morality of a given course of conduct eg- while a citizen in a criminal regime is obliged to disobey unjust laws and orders, he or she is still obliged to obey laws and orders that are not inherently unjust in cases in which obedience thereto would not result in the causing of foreseeably greater evil(s) than whatever evil(s) would foresseeably result from disobedience thereto).

Consequently, because the implications of the claims that Jones et al are making are staggeringly, to grossly understate the matter, far-reaching, RJM is respectfully requesting that anyone who can identify errors in the claims Jones et al are making, provide the invaluable service to RJM et al of exposing any errors that might have been made and of demonstrating, if anyone would claim that Alex Jones et al are in error in regard to these matters, the areas in which they conjecturally are in error, in regard to the claims they are making regarding the attempted Globalist takeover of the world.

If someone can only provide noncounterfeit claims according to which persons, such as RJM can participate and cooperate in the Bush Agenda, which Jones et al claim is the agenda of a Globalist takeover, RJM et al would be eternally grateful for having been provided such.

In other words, if there is a formula whereby one can just "get along and go along" with what has been going on in this country and the world , and still not get punished for eternity for complicity in the enslavement and genocide that the NWO calls for (or if someone can demonstrate that the Globalist agenda does not call for such enslavement and genocide, in spite of the existence of all the documents and conveyances in which that agenda is explicated), if someone would explain what exactly that formula would be, an enormous service to RJM et al as well as everyone else, would have been provided.

INTRODUCTION

3/17/03 -To anyone to whom a video tape re the globalist takeover has been given, or to anyone who has not yet received one: 40 months ago, i received from Mrs. Devvy Kidd (www.devvy.com) a tape - Has Rome Become the Seat of the Antichrist? that forever changed my life. Prior to that juncture i had believed that the Catholic Church taught that persons could be saved outside of the Catholic Church. Within 3 months of receiving that tape i came to understand that the Non-counterfeit Catholic Church has always taught that everyone who dies outside of the confines of the Catholic Church goes to hell without exception and that any church that teaches to the contrary cannot possibly be and is not the Noncounterfeit Catholic Church.
It has been an arduous, laborious and fatiguing fight to retain sanctifying grace or at least to presumably retain it since then, as the requirements of the moral law are not always immediately apparent and I have had to change my entire mode of thinking to bring it into compatibility with the principle of non-contradiction and the metaphysical and immutable principle present in canon 2200.1 of the 1917 code of canon law, which identifies the cases in which malice and not good faith must be presumed regarding the motivations of a given party's conduct in a case in which a law is violated. The difficulty of having had to continue to conduct activity in a society in which the worst of atrocities is hourly committed upon the presumption of good faith, when such atrocities are obviously committed through a malicious disposition is something that would require volumes to adequately explain.

ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED

Recently i have become more aware through the reading of Devvy Kidd, Sherman Skolnick ( www.skolnick.com  ) and now the viewing of several Alex Jones ( www.infowars.com  ) tapes and some others of the magnitude of another related problem which affects everyone regardless of how ignorant of these effects anyone is.

Without an understanding of a number of factors, I do not see how anyone can understand the events of 9/11/01 and the subsequent developments well enough to properly respond to them.
Some of those factors are:

1. The Satanic beliefs and practices of U.S. President George W. Bush, his father and the Illuminati and the persons who run the U.S. and the world & the effect of the activities of these persons, whose number includes most prominently the world's bankers on world and u.S. history over the past 250 years - their control over what controls your daily life & the fact that Bush et al must evidently be classified as wolves in sheeps' or in what might be a more appropriate analogy, due to their possession of positions of authority, shepherd's clothing, and that they have no qualms even about shedding the blood of innocent children to accomplish their aims. The claim that any of the decision makers in the planned Globalist takeover have any concerns about the morality of their activity is simply entirely incompatible with the track record of their activity. The feigned opposition to abortion of the Bush Administration as pathetically token even as it is, is evidently nothing other than a strategy with which to deceive the members of the "soft" or "psuedo" political right, without whose support the Republicans would lose the measure of political power that they possess.

3. The banking practices of the world's bankers and banks, including most especially debt-based monetary systems and fractional reserve banking, the rolling of the economy (ie the artificially contrived business cycle), the alleged emptying of the gold supply in Fort Knox.etc, etc.

4. The so-called wars on drugs, and poverty, the movement to a cashless society, the almost total control of education at all levels by the banker controlled government and foundations, and the similar control of all major media outlets, the shills and false leaks and false whistleblowers planted in given cases to deceive the public into believing that those who run the government in this country still permit free public discourse and expressions of opposition to government activity at this juncture in history and the imposition of innumerable constraints on your liberty which are unheard of in u.S. history.

6. The problem-reaction-solution strategy which is what Nero used in 64 A.D. in burning Rome to turn public opinion against the Christians, what the u.S. used in 1898 in sinking the Maine to bring the U.S. into the Spanish- American war, the non-prevention of the sinking of the Lusitania in 1915 to bring the U.S into WWI, Hitler's burning of the Reichstag as a means to seize control of Germany, the nonprevention of the attack on Pearl Harbor to bring the U.S. into WWII, and the applications of that formula that the banker-controlled treasonists running the U.S. Govt have been using to facilitate the Globalist takeover,

7. most especially in the actual events of the first WTC bombing, OK City Bombing, and of 9/11/01. 8. the destruction of the Constitution and Bill of Rights which has followed, and the agenda of the Globalists to create and orchestrate further terrorist disasters in order to impose complete martial law which will enslave all those who do not resist it and attempt to eliminate all those who do. I would strongly suggest that after converting to



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