Re: The Fear of Spiritual Awakening (Was: SOVEREIGNTY: Use It or Lose It !
Monday, 26-Feb-01 15:39:38

    172.142.109.233 writes:



    rk: Below are two responses to my streaming audio tapes below.

    rk: Is there anyone out there able to spot the fear and obfuscation demonstrated in the two
    anonymous responses?

    rk: Indeed TRUTH is a tough pill for cowardly anonymous shadow dwellers to swallow.

    Ray Karczewski

    Four Streaming RealAudio sound files to awaken slumbering Christian Patriots. LISTEN,
    ACT, RECLAIM your lost SOVEREIGNTY. Narrated by Author Raymond Karczewski
    (requires RealAudio Player).

    http://www.arkenterprises.com/nobody.html
    THE NOBODY AND THE SOMEBODY -- THE CHRIST AND THE CHRISTIAN ---
    Allow me to share with you the key to a New Consciousness for Mankind in the New
    Millenium. Listen to this simple message of Spiritual Liberation. It will set you free. It is a
    message you can be assured you have not heard before in your lifetime. If there exists one
    message Spiritual Pilgrims cannot afford to
    miss, THIS IS THE ONE! -- (18:10 minutes running time).

    http://www.arkenterprises.com/hell.html
    HELL -- A comprehensive look into the society of man which has made this planet a Hell on
    Earth -- (28 minutes running time).

    http://www.arkenterprises.com/majority.html
    UTTERANCES TO A SILENT MAJORITY -- In my heart and spirit, I perceive that all men
    are born to be free. When that deeply held vision of freedom is shared within the hearts of my
    brothers
    and sisters of the silent majority, we will have a new life on this earth -- (17:12 minutes running
    time).

    http://www.arkenterprises.com/acts.html
    BY THEIR ACTS YE SHALL KNOW THEM --- Jesus the Christ and the 2,000 year old
    religion of Christianity is examined in the statement "By Their Acts Ye Shall Know Them " -- (
    15 minutes, 29
    seconds running time).

    On Sun Feb 25 17:03:28, Raymond Karczewski wrote:
    SOVEREIGNTY: Use It or Lose It !

    on Feb 26 01:02:44 phnx-6400-gw2poolg148.phnx.uswest.net wrote:

    Everybody does NOT love Raymond's Real Audio raves. He's gone awry.

    So take those awry real audio waves away, Ray.

    rk: In your terse, say-nothing responses, you only demonstrate the necessity for cowards to
    hunker down in the shadows and post anonymously as they live in FEAR of the TRUTH.

    Ray Karczewski
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    172.163.15.34 writes:

    fitc: As far as I can tell, you are not saying anything new, though you convince me that you
    genuinely believe your own myth and you want everyone else like you to get together and
    change the world to make it a much more pleasant place.

    rk: Do you mean the dissolution of dualistic Hell on Earth and a return to the nondualistic state
    of Peace on Earth -- YOU BET!!

    MY RESPONSE:

    Ray, sure we all want peace on earth, but you need to find peace in yourself before you can help others find peace. I can understand that you are very disturbed by what you see, but are are REACTING, NOT ACTING ON WHAT IS GOING ON. Take care of yourself. Lighten up a little and take a deep breath before choosing your words, for you might let sound reason get through all of that anger you show. I can understand why you are angry, but you are misdirecting your anger.

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    fitc: Subjectively, it is all very real to you, but there is a vast gap between objective, factual
    reality and the subjective myth that consumes 99.9% of the population.

    rk: That's why I frequently term the corrupted spirit of a collective civilized society ruled by
    mind controllers as being BASSACKWARDS?

    MY RESPONSE:

    Think about it: why are you so obsessed about what is COLLECTIVELY right for society that you would deny yourself peace in your brain? Are you afraid that people will enjoy their own lives without YOUR COLLECTIVE CONDITIONS fOR peace on earth?

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    fitc: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but getting people's subjective feelings riled up isn't
    the answer.

    rk: My words do raise Hell within the civilized Satanic (Opposer) Intellect, don't they?


    MY RESPONSE:

    The problem is that we have too many people in society trying to "raise hell." So far, it seems that the "in your face" homosexual militants are doing a better job at it, politically, yet there are a lot of people in the "middle" who just scratch their heads at the spectical of extremists from both sides ranting and raving. Hopefully, they will "wake up" by just deciding to reject both sides rather than swallow the idea of the "lesser of two evils."

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    rk: I bring your attention to your own need to misdirect others from exposure to such simple
    Truth even whilst you continue to hide in the shadows of anonymity after such lack of integrity
    has been pointed out to you repeatedly in the past. Still unable to face the LIGHT OF TRUTH
    as a man of integrity eh?


    MY RESPONSE:

    "Simple truth"? Your "simple truth" is only one of many thousands of dogmas about what the "true God" is like coming from people who have absolutely no practical solutions to the economic problems on earth.

    By the way, I'm not "hiding" from integrity. There are too many people out there who are willing to put their names behind insane assertions, and many of them are violence-prone. Sometimes it is necessary to speak anonymously in order to say what one has to say without fear of violence.

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    fitc: Freedom does not lie in the "liberation" of subjective feelings, but in the courage to face
    OBJECTIVE REALITY in a day and age in which subjectivism is preached to be the core of
    the human self.

    rk: Your rhetoric is one thing, the direction it imposes upon the spiritually blind is quite another,
    isn't it? It is through such use of positive-sounding empty rhetoric (political speeches, religious
    sermons) that mind controlled masses lacking in spiritual discernment are transformed into
    enslaved value producing chattel.

    MY RESPONSE:

    "Spiritually blind?" You show a lot of anger and self-righteousness but you show no sign of anything that I can describe as "spirituality".

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    fitc: Occultism is popular not because people choose it, but because it psychologically traps
    people in its symbolic frame of frame on reality. All evidence suggests that your "sovereignty" is
    just part of this symbolic web of occultism.

    rk: Perhaps you will elucidate further on such *evidence?* Tossing out vague judgments as you
    have just demonstrated, while unsubstantiated by any *evidence* whatsoever is a favorite
    technique of anonymity cloaked disinformation agents/mind controllers.

    Your accusations of "disinformation" is evidence of a hidden occult influence in your thinking. Even the most simple common sense assertions come under your blanket accusations of "disinformation" because common sense observations made by using my eyes and ears are a threat to your idea of a "hidden spiritual reality." Occultism is defined in terms of "hidden" mysteries, but the problem is that occultism always comes from tyrants who want to blind fold the masses so that their lack of sight can be taken as "mystery." This is how people mask the TYRANNY OF THE AGES as the "mystery of the ages." You come across as a self-obsessed tyrant rather than someone who genuinely wants to liberate the "masses" from tyranny.



    rk: There they will see inarguable EVIDENCE for themselves, of a five year long campaign
    aimed at preventing my "SIMPLE TRUTH" from reaching the ears of the hypnotically
    slumbering masses.

    fitc: So, no matter how much you try to give it a different spin, it always comes out the same
    thing being repeated over and over again by people who don't want to look at the facts
    because the facts are too painful.

    rk: Truth is always a "tough pill to swallow" for the conditioned masses. But swallow it they
    must if they are to be healed, made whole, and bring about a return to personal Sovereignty.

    MY RESPONSE:

    I suspect that you should worry about yourself first before you worry about the "conditioned masses".

    fitc: As the old adage goes, the truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable. You
    need to let go of your mind to gain your brain the way it was meant to function. I lost my mind,
    but I gained my brain. To tape the first step toward mindlessness, go to
    http://www.geocities.com/carriedrake_2000/Symbolism.html 

    Face in the Crowd

    rk: "face in the crowd," your disingenous empty rhetoric in this post only renders testimony to
    the conflicted, limited, dualistic energy projected by its cowardly, shadow dwelling
    Satanic-driven-Intellectually-trapped, anonymous author.

    MY RESPONSE:

    It sounds like you deem everyone who doesn't accept your occult world view about spirituality
    and who goes by what they see with their own eyes rather than by what you say as "Satanic-driven-intellectuall-trapped". Maybe you should open your eyes up a little and reassess what you view as "spirituality."

    Face in the Crowd

    rk: Hell, isn't it?

    Face in the Crowd

SOVEREIGNTY: Use It or Lose It ! (Raymond Karczewski) (25-Feb-01 19:51:50)

 

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