Melissa
Holland Anti Euthanasia Group WARNS US/WANTS TO HELP TERRI!!
Sat Oct 25 18:47:57 2003
24.165.236.2

Read the above post titled "Florida's Terri Case Opens the Door for Euthanasia in the USA."

Subject: HOLLAND ANTI EUTHANASIA GROUP WILL TESTIFY FOR TERRI


Schreeuw om Leven – Ruitersweg 35-37, 1211 KT Hilversum, The Netherlands

phone +31 35 624-4352, fax +31 35 624-9141, e-mail schreeuw@solcon.nl , internet www.schreeuwomleven.nl


http://www.schreeuwomleven.nl/Euthanasia/Index.htm


They want to help Terri and testify on her behalf. Read what they wrote.

I have e-mailed what they posted to everyone @ terrysfight.org and to terrishope@aol.com , plus to Alex Jones' radio show.

They talk about how one woman was murdered because her husband requested it, and next thing you know, everyone is being murdered, and people are scared all doctors and nurses will kill them instead of treating them. Here is my e-mail, which contains their post:

----- Original Message -----
To: rschindlersr@yahoo.com  ; bobby@terrisfight.org  ; suzanne@terrisfight.org  ; phenn@zimp.org  ; fran@terrisfight.org  ; dave@terrisfight.org 
Cc: alex@infowars.com  ; tips@infowars.com  ; terrishope@aol.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: HOLLAND ANTI EUTHANASIA GROUP WILL TESTIFY FOR TERRI


THIS WAS POSTED ON APFN.ORG'S MESSAGE BOARD @ http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html  ON 10-25-03 AND SUBJECT LINE SAID Florida's Terri Case Opens the Door for Euthanasia in the U(SA) — APFN, Sat Oct 25 17:02.

THEY ARE IN HOLLAND AND WANT TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF TERRI AND ANY ANTI EUTHANASIA CASES! READ THIS E-MAIL, PLEASE! READ WHAT HAPPENED IN HOLLAND AFTER ONE WOMAN WAS MURDERED... THAT LET THE FLOOD GATES WIDE OPEN TO MURDER ANYONE WILLY NILLY, JUST AS IT HAPPENED IN NAZI GERMANY!!!

I KNEW ALL ALONG THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER HERE! TERRI IS NOT THE FIRST THEY HAVE MURDERED OR ATTEMPTED TO MURDER OVER HERE, BUT IF THEY DO MURDER HER, THE FLOOD GATES WILL SWING WIDE OPEN, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE EVIL POWERS THAT BE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH! JUST LOOK AT ALL MEDIA LIES/PROPAGANDA!!! THEY WANT THE USA TO BE THE 4TH REICH AND DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID IN GERMANY!

THE PERSON WHO POSTED THIS DID NOT KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU SO I COPIED AND PASTED THEIR POST AND E-MAILED IT TO YOU. I WILL ALSO SEND THEM YOUR CONTACT INFO. IF I CAN E-MAIL THEM.

APFN
Florida's Terri Case Opens the Door for Euthanasia in the USA
Sat Oct 25 17:02:33 2003
64.140.158.73

Florida's Terri Case Opens the Door for Euthanasia in the USA

Maybe someone knows who to contact here? They are willing to help! Anyone with any connections to Terri 's Camp?

We are available to help to answer your questions and to testify in this case!

Reprinted with permission of Bert P. Dorenbos, President Schreeuw om Leven (Cry for Life) Hilversum, Holland
Ph. +31 35 6244352, e-mail web site:

http://www.schreeuwomleven.nl/english.htm 

We are available to help to answer your questions and to testify in this case!

http://www.wf-f.org/euthanasiainholland.html

Schreeuw om Leven – Ruitersweg 35-37, 1211 KT Hilversum, The Netherlands

phone +31 35 624-4352, fax +31 35 624-9141,
e-mail schreeuw@solcon.nl , internet www.schreeuwomleven.nl


Strong Euthanasia Warning from Holland

By Bert P. Dorenbos, President Schreeuw om Leven (Cry for Life) Hilversum, Holland

Florida's Terri Case Opens the Door for Euthanasia in the USA

Florida's 6th Circuit Court Judge George Greer has ordered that Mrs. Terri Schindler-Schiavo's feeding tube be removed as of Wednesday October 15th at 2 P.M. That tube provides her with essential nutrition and hydration.

The request for this decision came from Mrs. Schiavo's husband Michael. Medical evidence and information given by Mrs. Schiavo's parents and other visitors prove that ending her life is a violation of Mrs. Schiavo's human rights.

The decision of the 6th Circuit Court of Florida is more important than the Supreme Court Decision to ban euthanasia in the United States of America. This Florida Court decision opens the (flood)gate of subjective decision making in cases of life and death.

At the moment that, in the Dutch debate on euthanasia, a court ruled that withholding food and fluid is a permissible medical treatment the road was paved for the Euthanasia Law that is in force in Holland now. It was in the case of Mrs. Ineke Stinissen, who had been in coma for several years that a Dutch court ruled in 1990 that food and fluid could be withheld from her. As is the case of Mrs. Schiavo, this was at the request of her husband. Mrs. Stinissen died shortly afterwards from starvation.

Since then the discussion about the termination of life has no longer been based on objective facts on the terminal illness in the life of a patient, but more and more on a subjective approach to the quality of that patient's life and the subjective view of professional and non professional persons about the right to life or death.

National Constitutions, the International Declaration on Human Rights, the recent United Nations Declarations are all based on the universal protection of the life of a person whatever his circumstances are and without any form of discrimination. In medical circles it is still accepted that, based on the historical Hippocratic Oath, a medical doctor will never apply his skill to kill a person.

It is not without reason that the United Nations Human Rights Commission has questioned the Dutch Government expressing its members' concern on the subjective regulations in the Dutch Euthanasia law which allows a doctor to kill a patient. These questions are still not answered. In Holland the debate has not stopped with the introduction of the euthanasia law but is is even increasing because doctors are still not willing to report their euthanasia cases. Patients are not sure if the doctor helps to kill or to cure. The Dutch Euthanasia Law is a very dangerous example to follow.

It is extremely important that those organizations who support the Supreme Court decision to ban Euthanasia take action against this Florida Court Decision. An appeal should be made.

We are available to help to answer your questions and to testify in this case.

Reprinted with permission of Bert P. Dorenbos, President Schreeuw om Leven (Cry for Life) Hilversum, Holland
Ph. +31 35 6244352, e-mail web site: http://www.schreeuwomleven.nl/english.htm 

TERRISHOPE
GREAT NEWS: Michael Schaivo LOOK OUT NOW!!!!
Sat Oct 25 06:19:21 2003
64.140.158.41

PLEASE Circulate this ASAP!!!
Okay now the pressure IS ON!!!
Michael Schaivo LOOK OUT NOW!!!!

World known Expert and Famed Forensic Pathologist Michael Baden Just now appeared on FOX National News and stated that he received the Medical records of Terri Schaivo and viewed them AND ... her injuries are not consistent with anything like they are stating happened to her! His words exactly were "This should have been INVESTIGATED!" YES!!!!!!!!!!!

He said A LOT more then this, all real good, but I was yelling too loud to hear him... he basically said she WAS HURT BY SOMEONE... that's the english version. YES!!!! Poor thing. :(

This man is GREAT, I have seen him solve crimes that were UNBELIEVABLE...Now we need to email him and tell him to keep going PUBLIC PLEASE and SAVE HER Life and also Circulate this news... It needs to get back to Michael, so he KNOWS the world will watch him HANG for this!!!!! YES!!!!!! YES!!! YES!!! Thank God!!! WHHHHOOOOOHOOOO Now you all can cheer, this news is GREAT NEWS for us, we need to get it out!!! Anyone who find a phone number on him, FAX, email or whatever email me ASAP...PLEASE and THANK YOU! YES!!!!
Read this if you don't know of him, I have watched him for years! He's the BEST! Famed Forensic Pathologist Michael Baden and Former FBI Agent Candice DeLong Headline Forensic Focus 2003
http://www.forensicnursemag.com/hotnews/35h29132744.html
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PLEASE READ:
I have answered some of your emails to me in here... please READ these letters BELOW, from all of you to me .... see if I have opened your mail yet... look and see if I responed to you... if not I am trying, but this, for right now, is easier... but please be sure to scroll down and read, OK.

If you just sent a commnet without info or a question, then I just put it in here to share with the others... You are ALL doing a wonderful job... PLEASE Lets SAVE Terri!!! Please do whatever you can and just know that I am sitting here going through mail I have not opened yet... Love you all of you, Lisa Please read below...GOD BLESS YOU & YOURS! Lisa PS BAD NEWS...THIS JUST IN... ACLU Joins Dispute Over Terri Schindler Schiavo
ACLU Joins Dispute Over Terri Schindler Schiavo -- 10/24/2003
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200310%5CCUL20031024c.html
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At the end of your letter to the media I added:
Break this story and be a true hero. What are You afraid of? What You Have so far are not the facts. Isn't there someone out there who really wants to know how evil Terri's Husband is and how everyone is dancing to his tune? I wonder how much money He is Paying them when Terri does die when they order another stavation? Think about it. Ask yourself. If someone doesn't come forward and get the whole Dirt on Terri's Husband.
Let the other Stations I am writing do it before you.....
**Lisa's Note...This is REAL GOOD!!! SEE ... when we all put our minds together, we all already know what we can do, as long as were work together!! It is MY FIRM belief that we really saved Terri's life, us and those who MOVED and took ACTION. I watched the entire time when the Senate and house of rep's VOTED and PASSED "Terri's Bill" and they flat out stated OVER and OVER again that they received literally hundreds of thousand of faxes, call and emails and all the papers and I mean ALL of them said the pressure was on Gov. Bush, that his office received the same as above!

Like I said, it is sooo easy to stand by and do nothing, it takes a lot to stand up for what you all believe it the right and just thing to do. Terri would be dead tonight or near dead if we had waited for the other guy to jump in and do something, thinking and hoping for her that others would. Isn't about time that WE ALL fight to make things right again, while we are still here on God's earth, instead of standing by watching things like the Bible and prayer being removed from schools, the 10 commandments being forced out of public View ... things like this. We have to stop this craziness, because it is making our world a bad world and worse, we are now allowing the MURDER of living breathing human beings...how terribly sad and wrong is this?

I assure you all, this time "We the Good People were Heard!!!" And in a big way! How rare is that? Now we HAVE to pull together, hopefully only ONE more time for Terri, to make sure the courts do NOT over turn this bill by saying it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!

This was an awesome addition... THANK YOU! Lets see what happens with this now.
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seeeeeeeeeeeending nowwwwwwwwwwwwww
Cherie
~TERRISHOPE~ terrishope@aol.com

Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation



http://www.schreeuwomleven.nl/Euthanasia/Index.htm

HOLLAND
Euthanasia

Euthanasia

English Articles





TERRI CASE FLORIDA

AUTHOR
TITLE (Source,Year)
TOPIC

Drs. Bert P. Dorenbos, President, Schreeuw om Leven (Cry for Life)
The Dutch Euthanasia Law (October 2003)
It is very important not to focus on the emotional side of the discussion when we talk about the Dutch euthanasia law, but to look very careful how the law is functioning within the framework of the Foundational law of Holland and the other laws of the free world countries around the world.

Press release 'STRONG EUTHANASIA WARNING FROM HOLLAND'

Euthanasia debate in Reuters Magazine, July 2002

Termination of Life on Request and Assisited Suicide (Further on in this document)



RECENT AND SPECIAL ARTICLES ABOUT EUTHANASIA IN THE NETHERLANDS



AUTHOR
TITLE (Source,Year)
TOPIC




K.F. Gunning, M.D. (The Netherlands) & Dr. Ph.Y.M.J.H. Schepens (Belgium)
To the members of European Parliament

(February 2001)
Letter of Concern by the World Federation of Doctors Who Respect Human Life. The Law is incompatible with the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamantal Freedoms

Jonathan Imbody
This is a Very Dark Week in Our History

(November 2000)
Comment of Christian Medical & Dental Associations, USA on Euthanasia Law

Christian Medical & Dental Association

California Pro-Life Council
Thoughtprovoking Video’s
Video’s about Euthanasia with links to producing organisations

Jonathan Imbody
Deadly Diagnosis in the Netherlands

(January 2001)
An example of Unwanted Euthanasia and systematic “Bed-Clearing”

Prof.dr. Thomas Schirrmacher
Euthanasia – Homocide on Demand or at the Doctor’s Discretion

(The Abolition of Abortion, 2000)
Analysis shows how Hitler would have it so much easier in the Netherlands now than in World War II





Dutch Government
Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide (Review Procedures) Act, 1998

(Official English translation, February 2001)
Amended legislative proposal (by Lower House, November 2000) of “Euthanasia Law” to the Upper House of the States General.

Also links to information from the Dutch Government about the “Euthanasia Bill” in other languages



OTHER ARTICLES ABOUT EUTHANASIA IN THE NETHERLANDS



AUTHOR
TITLE (Source,Year)
TOPIC




Karel F. Gunning, M.D.
Practice of Euthanasia in The Netherlands

(Dutch Euthanasia – Worldwide Threat, 1995)
Discussion of Remmelink Report with Dutch Euthanasia figures of 1990

Herman van der Kolk, Esq.
Euthanasia from a Dutch Legal Perspective

(Dutch Euthanasia – Worldwide Threat, 1995)
Legal aspects of Dutch Euthanasia till 1995

Gijs van Brenk
Palliative Care in the Terminal Phase of Life

(The Threat of Euthanasia, 1996)
Hospices

Prof.dr. W.J. Eijk
The Ethical Approach of Life in a Culture of Death and What Lies Ahead?

(The Treath of Euthanasia, 1996)
Ethical and religious arguments against Euthanasia

Karel F. Gunning, M.D.
An Answer to Pain and Suffering

(The Threat of Euthanasia, 1996)
Pain treatment in the Netherlands is not optimal and there are few hospices

Herman van der Kolk, Esq.
The Doctor and the Intentional Termination of Human Life

(The Threat of Euthanasia, 1996)
Discussion of the legal aspects in the pamphlet of the Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG) about Euthansia

Karel F. Gunning, M.D.
Why Not Euthanasia

(The Continuing Threat of Euthanasia, 1997)
Comparison of Dutch Euthanasia figures of 1990 and 1995

Piet Huurman
Euthanasia in the Netherlands – Cases and Trends

(The Continuing Threat of Euthanasia, 1997)
Some comments in the press discussed

Herman van der Kolk, Esq.
Euthanasia – the Progressive Undermining of Legal Protection for Human Life

(The Continuing Threat of Euthanasia, 1997)
Analysis of legal aspects of Euthanasia

Herman van der Kolk, Esq.
Man Created in God’s Image

(The Continuing Threat of Euthanasia, 1997)
Personal experiences

Matthijs de Blois, Esq.
Euthanasia and the Right to Life

(Human Rights and Abortion and Euthanasia, 1998)
Dutch Euthanasia and International Law

Karel F. Gunning, M.D.
Human Rights and Euthanasia in the Netherlands

(Human Rights and Abortion and Euthanasia, 1998)
Summary of Euthanasia developments in the Netherlands

Herman van der Kolk, Esq.
Update on the Slippery Slope on Euthanasia since 1997

(Human Rights and Abortion and Euthanasia, 1998)
Comments to Draft Law Euthanasia 1998

Nieuwe Revu
The Shocking Practice of Euthanasia in Holland

(Human Rights and Abortion and Euthanasia, 1998)
Report on Euthanasia in the Netherlands in a general weekly magazine


EUTHANASIA AND GERMAN HISTORY



AUTHOR
TITLE (Source,Year)
TOPIC



Marian H.N. Dri