TruthSeeker24
More debates with Mark from OK.
Mon Sep 27, 2004 13:42
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*I've debated Freemasons since 2003 and this Mason is no different.




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August 16th 2004
11:29:22 PM


This site is typical of the lies people come up with. It is sad when someone who claimes to be a Christian has to blantantly lie to get attention. Why doesn't "Truthseeker" use his real name???? Using a fasle name doesn't make him any less of a liar nor will it lessen his lies at the time of judgement.

By Mark from Oklahoma

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August 26th 2004
12:41:34 AM



I wonder what are my liars that I keep on spewing??? Bush being part of the Satanic Skulls and Bones and Bohemian Grove is a FACT. Over 1 million jobs outsourced overseas is the Truth. The Iraq War being unjust and illegal is a FACT. Abortion being immoral is a FACT. Bush causing America to be divided in half more than ever before is also a FAct.

I usually don't use my name because it's Freedom of Speech and aliases are common on the internet. If I continue to live a clean life and follow Christ until death, I'm in Heaven.

By TruthSeeker24 from Virginia.


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August 26th 2004
01:22:47 AM



Interesting how some want to blame Bush for everything. Lets look at some FACTS. Yes jobs are going overseas, but this trend far outdates Bush. (How many plants does Hines have overseas???? 57 of them, you think Kerry is going to bring them back so Americans can have the jobs?) How do you find the war in Iraq to be illegal? The Congress voted and passed the resolution. Like it or not it passed! Yes abortion is immoral and murder. Bush has spoken out against abortion but Kerry was excommunicated from the Catholic Church for supporting abortion. Yes America is divided, but it is not of Bush's doing. America is divided because of LIBERALS. The same LIBERALS who support abortion and gay marrage. - PS Truthseeker, the lies I was referring to the lies you plagerized on Freemasonry. Can you come up with anything on your own or can all you do is cut and paste?
Using a ficitious name only lowers credibility.

By Mark from Oklahoma

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September 15th 2004
02:43:26 AM

A Simple Response to Mark.

Did I say that I've blamed Bush for everything on the face of the Earth? No, I've just outlined his corrupt policies and legacy which are apparent to those with ears to hear and eyes to see. Yeah, the Heinz company has 57 plants overseas, but under Bush's watch there is a net loss of jobs which is the first in USA history since Herbert Hoover. Over 1 million jobs are gone under his watch and Bush supports Clinton's NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO, etc. (globalisation) which are accelerating the job loss. Also, Bush has skyrocketed the federal deficit in a record totalling over $400 billion. I don't support either man of Bush or Kerry. I'll probably vote for the Constitutional Party in this 2004 Skulls and Bones election. That never infringes on the Bush or Kerry vote.

The Iraq War was illegal since there was no Congressional Declaration of War from Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. A Resolution won't cut in justification or executing it. Congress declares war not the President using a Resolution. A Resolution is totally different from a declaration of war inside Iraq. Bush supports abortion for rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother. If a man supports it for rape or incest, he's not truly Pro-Life at all. Bush also have gave tax payers' money to population control and abortion efforts in Third World countries, plus he said he never attends to condemn Roe V. Wade. www.BushRevealed.com has documented Bush's Pro-CHoice policies. I agree that Kerry is worse, but Bush isn't Pro-Life as well. Him being excommunicated from the Catholic Church doesn't have anything to do with the argument at all.

LIBERALS have divided America in many areas, but in this time, I've never seen the country like this. Bush passed Big Brother plans, the Patriot Act, and other programs running contrary to conservative ideals. Liberals can't be totally blamed for it and Neo-cons need the blame as well. In Fact the liberals are right on Iraq, globalization, civil liberties, and other things that I give credit for.

Freemasonry is not of God and if you don't like the sources that I've quoted from the horse mouth's then that's your business. Masonry accept brothers of a Lodge of different faiths which is wrong. Masonry has pagan symbols and symbolism which is wrong. Masonry also in their history have committed folly and have death oaths (even if they are non-literal) that contrary to Christ's command to never swear at all. Plus Masons call some of their leaders Worshipful Master which is against Christ's rule of calling no man Master. This is America and it's free speech for me to use whatever alias I want and that doesn't lower my credibility at all. *(This is my longer response from a Forum)


By TruthSeeker24

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September 21st 2004
10:31:44 PM

If Truthseeker wants an honest debate, anytime, anywhere. Just to let you know, I am using Truthseekers "espose" on Freemasonry in an upcoming book. In it I will not only PROVE that the quotes he uses are from non-Masons, but that he cuts and pastes his work from other web-pages. The rituals he quotes from are not true Masonic rituals and a few more but I can't tell it all in here, have to save some for a suprise.I got all I need for the book, I am finished with this site, moving on to the next.

By Mark from Oklahoma



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You've never refuted me about Bush or his corrupt legacy so I'm not convinced that you'll refute me on Masonry. Bush being part of the Satanic Skulls and Bones is a fact, he passed Big Brother policies is a fact, and the Iraq War posing no threat to us causing many problems is also a fact. I quote from sites, but on many occasions I do type my own thoughts like I'm doing now. To still believe that every quote here is a cut and paste job from another site is a LIE.

You couldn't beat my younger brother or Chris in a debate and me presenting contradictions about Bush, abortion, liberals, and other issues refutes your NEO CON point of view alone. I have no fear of your book, but God alone. Phds, Ex-Masons, and religious leaders from across the globe believe as I do, so you'll continue to embrace pagan symbols, unnecessary oaths, and a folly-filled history unless God wakes you up to DEMIT from that group. I've debated people anywhere, anytime, and anyplace before.

By TruthSeeker24


*Isn't it obvious who won?????
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