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Re: Kerry = Tired of the Propaganda
Sun Aug 22, 2004 03:10
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Subject: Tired of the Propaganda
Sun, Aug 22 2004 at 12:31 am
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This is a post that I shouldn't write, but with all the propaganda that is taking place on the countdown to November 2nd, I feel that I can't hold my tongue any longer.
Let me start by saying that I DON'T LIKE KERRY, but I will be damned if I will set back and let someone get by with lying about his service, and I believe that everything that the "SWIFT Boats for Truth" crew is saying is nothing but bald face lies.
Anyone who has ever been anywhere around the Delta knows that there were no cowards patrolling that area,it was a water highway, where there was no place to hide. And from all that I have read about John Kerry, he has earned all the respect given to him for his service there. It is what he has done since the protests of the seventies ended that has influenced my feelings towards him.
By late 1967 a lot of the vets realized that what we were doing in Vietnam was a monstrous evil, myself included, and we knew that all the killing was unnecessary. Many of the soldiers became activists and joined with other citizens to expose the evils that were being committed by our government, in the name of democracy. Unfortunately, at that time, I was buried so deep in a bottle, and hiding behind the great wall of denial, that I didn't join with Kerry and the other vets in their endeavor to expose this evil government. Had more of us joined in at that time, perhaps we wouldn't have the problems that we face today.
We should have worked harder to expose those secret government operations such as the Phoenix program, etc.. Had we done our job then, perhaps they wouldn't be repeating themselves today in Iraqi cities such as Najaf, and Fallujah, where today's soldiers are still being the good soldier and obeying those immoral orders passed on to them from this corrupt government.
There are times when I wonder what we Americans use for brains. There is a large number of people in this country, who are fighting tooth, and nail, to get firearms removed from "we the people", who have never so much as threatened to use those guns to harm another, and at the same time, we allow the biggest weapons violators ever to exist on this earth (The US Army) to travel the globe, kill thousands in our name, and we cheer them on with bumper stickers that read "Proud to be an American". I look at those stickers and I have to wonder, what in the HELL do we have to be proud of? How can a so called Christian nation be proud of killing people who have never harmed a hair on our head?
Are we so ignorant and blind that we are unable to see that these people do not have the technology to have committed the atrocities of which this lying government has accused them of doing? Are we so gullible, that we believe all the lies that Bush spews over the airways about the killings that the leaders of those countries have committed, but are unable to recognize the millions that our own government has killed?
Well, I for one, am damned ashamed of this country! We have got religion shoved so far up our asses, that it has blinded us as to what Christianity is supposed to be about.
I was taught that we didn't throw stones, and we condemned those who did, and I suggest that if we think Bush is, in fact, on a mission from God, we had better check to see who he looks too as his God, because even the devil can quote scripture.
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Feb. 28, 1969, I was officer in charge of PCF-23
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Some Prominent Members of Skull & Bones:
William F. Buckley, Jr. (Bones Class of 1950):
Founder of National Review, the leading conservative magazine in the United States. Brother James (Skull & Bones l944) is now a member of the U.S. Court of Appeals. William F. Buckley, Jr., former CIA officer in Mexico, also built the political grassroots conservative movement in the U.S. in the 1960s. President Bush and Buckley have recently split over Buckley's strong pro-lsraelism.
McGeorge Bundy (Skull & Bones initiate of 1940):
Scion of the Skull & Bones Bundy family. Father Harvey H. Bundy was Skull & Bones, as was brother William P. Bundy. McGeorge served in the War De
Department during World War II as Henry Stimson's assistant and later became the Nalional Security Adviser to President Kennedy. William Bundy became a CIA official and later served in key positions at the Departments of State and Defense. McGeorge headed the Ford Foundation (1968-1980) and William chaired the Council on Foreign Relations (1972-1983).
George Bush (initiated in 1948) President of the United States. Comes from a complete Bones family. Father Prescott, a Bones initiate of the class of 1917. Uncle George Herbert Walker, Bones Class of 1927. U S Federal District Court Judge
John Walker is also a relative and a Bonesman.
Alfred Cowles (Class of 1913): Built the Cowles Communication empire based on the Des Moines (lowa) Register and the Minneapolis (Minnesota) Star and Tribune. These two newspapers play a significant role in shaping the early presidential primaries, especially in Iowa.
Hugh Cunningham (Bones 1934); CIA man from 1947 to 1973. He served in top positions in the Clandestine Services, the Board of National Estimates and later as Director of Training.
Thomas Daniels (initiated in 1914) founder of the largest agro-business and grain cartel company in Minnesota-Archer-Daniels-Midland (ADM) Served in the Foreign Service and later during World War II as head of the Fats and Oils Section of the War Produclion Board. ADM Corporation's new head Dwayne Andreas is one of the most powerful figures in U.S.-Soviet trade relations. Daniels's only son, John (Bones 1943), also works in ADM. The bank which underwrites ADM stock issues is the Morgan Stanley investment bank
Richard Ely Danielson (Skull & Bones 1907) Past publisher of the Atlanric Monthly magazine, one of the leading magazines for seeing which policy line on a variety of issues is coming out of the Eastern Establishment.
Russell Wheeler Davenport (initiated in 1923); Fortune magazine writer and editor, made this magazine the leading authority on financial matters in the United States. Davenport created the Fortune 500 companies list.
Henry P. Davison (Bones Class of l920): Key senior partner in the Morgan banking and financial trust networks. His fellow Bonesman Harold Stanley (1908) founded the investment bank Morgan Stanley. Davison and his family helped set up the Guaranty Trust Corporation which became Morgan Guaranty Thomas Cochran (1904 Bonesman) was one of the most powerful partners in the Morgan bank. The influence of the Mgrgan banking system can be seen in its relationship with the hierarchy of U.S. intelligence. The head of the Office of Strategic Services, Gen. William Donovan, worked as a Morgan intelligence operative in thc 1920s and prepared the intelligence reports for the Morgan banking concerns on developments in Europe. F. Trubee Davison became CIA Director of Personnel in 1951 and placed key Bonesmen in the right positions inside the CIA.
Averell Harriman (1913 initiate). Scion of the Harriman railroad family. His brother Roland (Skull & Bones 1917) ran the investment bank Brown Brothers Harriman. Averell was one of the most powerful members of the Skull & Bones fralernity,
His government posts ranged from Ambassador to Russia during World War II and various State Department positions to chief negotiator on the Vietnam Talks. Confidential adviser to Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and later
Nixon and Carter. His investment banking firm is virtually a Skull & Bones bank-nine senior partners are from Skull & Bones.
President Bush's father worked in Brown Brothers Harriman after helping to merge several companies in the Unitd Rubber Corporation of America.
Winston Lord (Bones Class of 1959): Chairmah of the Council on Foreign Relations (1983-l988). Former State Department official and CIA officer in Asia. China expert. Six members of the Lord family were Skull & Bones, including Charles Edwin Lord, former Comptroller of the Currency, Department of the Treasury. Oswald Bates Lord (Skull & Bones l926) married Mary Pillsbury of the Minnesota based Pillsbury Flour Corporation. Winston Lord is their son.
Robert A. Lovett (1918 initiate): Put together the Brown Brothers Harriman merger and later organized the aviation industry mobilization for World War II. Became part of the most exclusive power group in World War II under Henry Stimson. Lovett was one of the five or six most powerful men in the United States for nearly 40 years until his death in 1986.
Henry Luce (initiated in 1920): Built the Time-Life publishing empire. Became the leading publicist of the "American century" doctrine
Dino Pionzio (Bones Class of 1950): CIA deputy chief of station in Chile during the overthrow of Chilean President Salvador Allende. Now works at the investment firm Dillion Read.
Alphonso Taft (initiated in 1833): Secretary of War (1876), Attorney General (1876-1877) and later Minister to Austria and Russia. Co-founder of Skull & Bones.
Robert A. Taft (1910 initiate); Speaker of the House of Representatives (1921-1926) and Senator (R-Ohio). Leader of the Isolationist movement in the 1930s. His son Robert A. Taft, Jr., also senator from Ohio, led the right-wing of the Republican Party in the 1950s and 1960s. Robert A. Taft, Jr., however, was the only member of the Taft family who was not Skull & Bones.
William H. Taft (Skull & Bones 1878): President of the United Statcs (1908-1912) and appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (1921-1930). Secretary of War (1904-1908). Trustee, Carnegie Institution. Part of the long line of Tafts who served in the U.S. government.
William Collins Whitney (initiated 1863): Secretary of the Navy (1885-1889). Promoter of the Naval Shipyards and financier.
Part of the Whitney family which sent eight of its members to Yale to become Skull & Bonesmen. Family intermarried with the Payne, Harriman and Vanderbilt clans. The Whitneys became some of Wall Street's most powerful financiers through the Guaranty and Knickerbocker Trust Companies.
Current U.S. senators who are Skull & Bones members;
Sen. Jonathan Bingham (D-N.M.).
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