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Subject: What Bush Doesn't Know
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:42:29 -0700
From: Darren [AvIntel & InfoEdge Groups] avintel@netzero.com
Organization: AvIntel
To: THE GROUP
On tonight's Lehrer News Hour (PBS), the former CIA head of the bin
Laden unit, said the following:
[ http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/africa/july-dec05/egypt_7-25.html ]
"MICHAEL SCHEUER: Oh, sure. And we're not being well served -- Mr.
Blair, Mr. Bush don't serve their electorate well by the Pavlovian
response of they hate our freedoms and they hate our liberties and they
hate gender equality and all of that stuff. They downplay these people
as simply haters.
And in many ways these people are lovers in the sense that they love
their religion and they love their society and they deem our foreign
policy an attack on that. This is not going to end any time soon. And,
indeed, as long as Western and U.S. policies in the Middle East remain
the same the growth potential for what I guess you could call
al-Qaidaism is enormous." [end]
[Darren again]
I have been saying before Iraq War II, that entering Iraq was going to
make the world a much more dangerous place, specifically, America and
her allies much more dangerous because of the very reckless war by Bush
& gang.
I guess as the bombs were going off in London, and an innocent man shot
to death with no due process by an 'elite team' of police, people could
have mimicked Bush or Blair and said "this is the price of freedom."
Thank you Bush, "patriotic Americans" and "conservative Christians
supporting the war" because you managed to see to it that well over
25,000 (documented official count) Iraqi civilian innocents have died
(some estimate that figure is well over 100,000). We've seen 1700++
American military personnel killed, and we have a much more dangerous
world and we have fueled the fire of exponential terrorist germination,
sadly. As a nation of so called patriots, we have the collective blood
on our hands for not stopping the war on Iraq.
See below.
Darren
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/opinion/25herbert.html?th&emc=th
Op-Ed Columnist
What Bush Doesn't Know
By BOB HERBERT
Published: July 25, 2005
I remember the arrogance that accompanied the "shock and awe" bombing
campaign that kicked off the war in Iraq more than two years ago. The
war was supposed to be quick and easy, a cakewalk. The enemy, we were
told, would fold like a dinner napkin. And then, in the neoconservative
fantasies of some of the crazier folks in the Bush crowd, the military
would gear up for an invasion of Iran.
In one of the great deceptions in the history of American government,
President Bush insisted to a nation traumatized by the Sept. 11 attacks
that the invasion of Iraq was crucial to the success of the so-called
war on terror.
"Some have argued that confronting the threat from Iraq could detract
from the war against terror," said Mr. Bush in a speech in the fall of
2002 that was designed to drum up support for the invasion. "To the
contrary, confronting the threat posed by Iraq is crucial to winning the
war on terror."
In the speech, delivered in Cincinnati, Mr. Bush said of Iraq: "It
possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking
nuclear weapons."
I've always urged politicians to be careful what they wish for. The
president got the war he wanted so badly. But he never understood an
essential fact that Georges Clemenceau learned nearly a century ago -
that "it is easier to make war than to make peace."
So where are we, now that the real world has intervened? The military is
spinning its wheels in the tragic and expensive quagmire of Iraq and
there is no end to the conflict in sight. A front-page story in The
Times on Sunday said the insurgents "just keep getting stronger and
stronger."
As for the fight against terror, the news runs the gamut from bad to
horrible. The Red Sea resort of Sharm el Sheik in Egypt was traumatized
by a series of early-morning terrorist blasts on Saturday. London is
trembling from the terror attacks on its public transportation system
that have claimed dozens of lives.
Here in New York, where the police have begun random searches of the
backpacks and packages of subway riders, there is an odd feeling of
resignation mixed with periodic bouts of dread, as transit riders
struggle with the belief that some kind of attack is bound to happen
here.
Interviews over the past few days have shown that subway riders in New
York almost instinctively understand what the president does not - that
the war in Iraq is not making us safer here at home.
"No, in fact I think it makes us less safe here," said Edmond Lee, a
salesman who lives on Manhattan's Upper West Side. "We went over there
with no real plan. No real thinking about what we'd be able to do."
He said he was concerned that "what happened in the London Underground
might happen here."
Memories of the destruction of the World Trade Center are still etched,
as if with acid, in the minds of New Yorkers. Very few people are dovish
when it comes to the war on terror. But Mr. Bush's war in Iraq is
another matter.
"Our soldiers being over there make it worse here," said Michael
Springfield, a 32-year-old engineer from Brooklyn.
One of the people encountered in the subway was Andy Dommen, a musician
from Germany who was pushing a shopping cart filled with luggage. He
made the fundamental distinction between Iraq and Al Qaeda and said the
war in Iraq was a distraction that "was taking the public eye off" other
important problems, namely the fight against terror.
"Messing up other countries," said Mr. Dommen, "doesn't make the world
or America safer."
There is still no indication that the Bush administration recognizes the
utter folly of its war in Iraq, which has been like a constant spray of
gasoline on the fire of global terrorism. What was required in the
aftermath of Sept. 11 was an intense, laserlike focus by America and its
allies on Al Qaeda-type terrorism.
Instead, the Bush crowd saw its long dreamed of opportunity to impose
its will on Iraq, which had nothing to do with the great tragedy of
Sept. 11. Many thousands have paid a fearful price for that bit of
ideological madness.
E-mail: bobherb@nytimes.com
-------------------------
Tenet under investigation for pre-9/11 AA put options?
http://www.total911.info/2005/07/tenet-under-investigation-for-pre-911.html
Tom Heneghen reports to Cloak & Dagger Internet Radio (late of
50,000-watt blowtorch CFMJ-AM) that a trusted "source close to the
Fitzgerald investigation" says the independent prosecutor is looking
into former CIA Director George Tenet's role in pre-9/11 put options
placed on American Airlines.
Previous editions of Cloak & Dagger reported that the special
prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has taken his investigation beyond who
named Valerie Plame as a CIA agent into who frauded up claims that
Saddam Hussien was seeking yellowcake uranium and, ultimately, the
9/11 scam.
C&D correspondent Tom Heneghen reported on the July 17 show that
Fitzgerald is looking into insider trading on airline stocks before
9/11. Heneghen reports that over the three trading days before 9/11
on the Chicago Board of Options 4,516 put options (bets the price
would tank) were placed on American Airlines stock vs only 748 call
options (bets the price would go up).
According to C&D, Fitzgerald is investigating Tenet's role in
connection to Buzzy Krongard, a former No. 3 at the CIA, and that
man's relation to the 2,157 airline options placed through Morgan
Stanley/Dean Witter, located on 22 floors of the WTC.
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Subject: What Bush Doesn't Know
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:42:29 -0700
From: Darren [AvIntel & InfoEdge Groups] avintel@netzero.com
Organization: AvIntel
To: THE GROUP
On tonight's Lehrer News Hour (PBS), the former CIA head of the bin
Laden unit, said the following:
[ http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/africa/july-dec05/egypt_7-25.html ]
"MICHAEL SCHEUER: Oh, sure. And we're not being well served -- Mr.
Blair, Mr. Bush don't serve their electorate well by the Pavlovian
response of they hate our freedoms and they hate our liberties and they
hate gender equality and all of that stuff. They downplay these people
as simply haters.
And in many ways these people are lovers in the sense that they love
their religion and they love their society and they deem our foreign
policy an attack on that. This is not going to end any time soon. And,
indeed, as long as Western and U.S. policies in the Middle East remain
the same the growth potential for what I guess you could call
al-Qaidaism is enormous." [end]
[Darren again]
I have been saying before Iraq War II, that entering Iraq was going to
make the world a much more dangerous place, specifically, America and
her allies much more dangerous because of the very reckless war by Bush
& gang.
I guess as the bombs were going off in London, and an innocent man shot
to death with no due process by an 'elite team' of police, people could
have mimicked Bush or Blair and said "this is the price of freedom."
Thank you Bush, "patriotic Americans" and "conservative Christians
supporting the war" because you managed to see to it that well over
25,000 (documented official count) Iraqi civilian innocents have died
(some estimate that figure is well over 100,000). We've seen 1700++
American military personnel killed, and we have a much more dangerous
world and we have fueled the fire of exponential terrorist germination,
sadly. As a nation of so called patriots, we have the collective blood
on our hands for not stopping the war on Iraq.
See below.
Darren
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/opinion/25herbert.html?th&emc=th
Op-Ed Columnist
What Bush Doesn't Know
By BOB HERBERT
Published: July 25, 2005
I remember the arrogance that accompanied the "shock and awe" bombing
campaign that kicked off the war in Iraq more than two years ago. The
war was supposed to be quick and easy, a cakewalk. The enemy, we were
told, would fold like a dinner napkin. And then, in the neoconservative
fantasies of some of the crazier folks in the Bush crowd, the military
would gear up for an invasion of Iran.
In one of the great deceptions in the history of American government,
President Bush insisted to a nation traumatized by the Sept. 11 attacks
that the invasion of Iraq was crucial to the success of the so-called
war on terror.
"Some have argued that confronting the threat from Iraq could detract
from the war against terror," said Mr. Bush in a speech in the fall of
2002 that was designed to drum up support for the invasion. "To the
contrary, confronting the threat posed by Iraq is crucial to winning the
war on terror."
In the speech, delivered in Cincinnati, Mr. Bush said of Iraq: "It
possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking
nuclear weapons."
I've always urged politicians to be careful what they wish for. The
president got the war he wanted so badly. But he never understood an
essential fact that Georges Clemenceau learned nearly a century ago -
that "it is easier to make war than to make peace."
So where are we, now that the real world has intervened? The military is
spinning its wheels in the tragic and expensive quagmire of Iraq and
there is no end to the conflict in sight. A front-page story in The
Times on Sunday said the insurgents "just keep getting stronger and
stronger."
As for the fight against terror, the news runs the gamut from bad to
horrible. The Red Sea resort of Sharm el Sheik in Egypt was traumatized
by a series of early-morning terrorist blasts on Saturday. London is
trembling from the terror attacks on its public transportation system
that have claimed dozens of lives.
Here in New York, where the police have begun random searches of the
backpacks and packages of subway riders, there is an odd feeling of
resignation mixed with periodic bouts of dread, as transit riders
struggle with the belief that some kind of attack is bound to happen
here.
Interviews over the past few days have shown that subway riders in New
York almost instinctively understand what the president does not - that
the war in Iraq is not making us safer here at home.
"No, in fact I think it makes us less safe here," said Edmond Lee, a
salesman who lives on Manhattan's Upper West Side. "We went over there
with no real plan. No real thinking about what we'd be able to do."
He said he was concerned that "what happened in the London Underground
might happen here."
Memories of the destruction of the World Trade Center are still etched,
as if with acid, in the minds of New Yorkers. Very few people are dovish
when it comes to the war on terror. But Mr. Bush's war in Iraq is
another matter.
"Our soldiers being over there make it worse here," said Michael
Springfield, a 32-year-old engineer from Brooklyn.
One of the people encountered in the subway was Andy Dommen, a musician
from Germany who was pushing a shopping cart filled with luggage. He
made the fundamental distinction between Iraq and Al Qaeda and said the
war in Iraq was a distraction that "was taking the public eye off" other
important problems, namely the fight against terror.
"Messing up other countries," said Mr. Dommen, "doesn't make the world
or America safer."
There is still no indication that the Bush administration recognizes the
utter folly of its war in Iraq, which has been like a constant spray of
gasoline on the fire of global terrorism. What was required in the
aftermath of Sept. 11 was an intense, laserlike focus by America and its
allies on Al Qaeda-type terrorism.
Instead, the Bush crowd saw its long dreamed of opportunity to impose
its will on Iraq, which had nothing to do with the great tragedy of
Sept. 11. Many thousands have paid a fearful price for that bit of
ideological madness.
E-mail: bobherb@nytimes.com
-------------------------
Tenet under investigation for pre-9/11 AA put options?
http://www.total911.info/2005/07/tenet-under-investigation-for-pre-911.html
Tom Heneghen reports to Cloak & Dagger Internet Radio (late of
50,000-watt blowtorch CFMJ-AM) that a trusted "source close to the
Fitzgerald investigation" says the independent prosecutor is looking
into former CIA Director George Tenet's role in pre-9/11 put options
placed on American Airlines.
Previous editions of Cloak & Dagger reported that the special
prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has taken his investigation beyond who
named Valerie Plame as a CIA agent into who frauded up claims that
Saddam Hussien was seeking yellowcake uranium and, ultimately, the
9/11 scam.
C&D correspondent Tom Heneghen reported on the July 17 show that
Fitzgerald is looking into insider trading on airline stocks before
9/11. Heneghen reports that over the three trading days before 9/11
on the Chicago Board of Options 4,516 put options (bets the price
would tank) were placed on American Airlines stock vs only 748 call
options (bets the price would go up).
According to C&D, Fitzgerald is investigating Tenet's role in
connection to Buzzy Krongard, a former No. 3 at the CIA, and that
man's relation to the 2,157 airline options placed through Morgan
Stanley/Dean Witter, located on 22 floors of the WTC.
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