RE: 9/11 & A Matter Of Justice Coalition
Sun Jul 9, 2006 01:39

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jrogins@va.metrocast.net  wrote:

The "veiled" sarcasm was not lost on me.

If you are a true truth seekers, why don't you identify your best speaker for the
9/11 conspiracy claims and let me debate

him in your forum, one claim at a time. Let us see how well he can defend his views.
I promise the debate will be a good learning experience for all. So, why don't we
hold a truth-finding debate?

Jacob Roginsky, President jrogins@va.metrocast.net
A Matter of Justice Coalition
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Subject: Re: 9/11 - Everything discredited by our discussion on AMOJ
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:10:25 -0400
From: Jonathon Moseley ruthercap@earthlink.net
http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/07-04-06/07-04-06.htm

PO Box 1209, Dahlgren, Va 22448-1209
E-mail: justicematters@amatterofjustice.org

AMOJ at Work
What we at AMOJ want and need to do:

Educate all citizen's about the realities of Our United States legal system.

Document instances of abuse endured from lawyers, judges and other public servants.
Through evidence-in-fact, publically expose the extent of corruption in the legal system.
- Create a Citizen's Judical Review and a Public Service Review.

Demonstrate citizens civil rights problems with the current state in our legal system.
Nothing can be done to improve acountability when our governments are "self-governed".
- Write Public Service and Judicial Accountability Initiative Laws.

Documentation of abuses sent to the States' Judicial Review Boards.
- What judges are disciplined as a result of complaints, the reprimands they received.

Document abuses regarding Friend of the Court, attorney and forensic psychologists.
- Make public documents available regarding the performance of public officials.
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/amoj/10about.cfm

The Terrorists Within

Kenneth C. Wiggins

We want to believe that our government protects us, as American citizens. We want to believe that the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are our 'safe haven' against the storm of the world. We have forgotten, in two hundred years of complacency, that those very Human Rights, were recognized and affirmed, not granted and allowed. The very Preamble of the Bill of Rights, in forming this government, does charge this government with protecting us, but it also specifically guarantees our protections from that very government.

Unfortunately, we forgot to charge the government with protecting itself from itself. Power feeds on itself, as is pretty obvious, from the massive growth of government, to the simple fact that one in ten Americans now work for the government. A monster, by any standard, that has lost sight of its purpose: Public Service. We don't work for 'them' -they work for us.

Ultimately, the blame falls on our judicial system. The 'immunities' afforded not just judges but many 'public officials' relieves them of the responsibility of their position. It is common, in Lesser Courts, for judges to break the law � because they can. Those individuals, who can 'afford the law', appeal. Those who cannot, pay. The judge just continues to break the law � because he can. It has reached epidemic proportions because now the Superior Courts are 're-writing' the law too.

From Family Courts to Corporate Law, if you've got the money, you win; if you haven't got the money, you pay. Pretty simple. It's about money, and no longer about Free Speech, Due Process, Evidence, or Living in Peace and Tranquility. Money buys 'justice.'

Walk into any Family Court today and watch the New Due Process and Evidentiary Procedure at their finest. 'We say you owe us money; pay up or go to jail.' No 'evidence of debt', no evidence of an account, no cross-examination, no nothing. 'Pay up or got to jail.' Family Courts have created more 'bad dads' than they have caught, because spending money chasing them isn't good for the legal cash-flow. They rely on reasonable, responsible citizens

The IRS seizure laws: They take it, and you may or may not ever see your property again, regardless of the verdict in court. DEA property seizures are used to fund their own operations. Get caught smoking a joint and they can take your house, your car, and your life. Read the newspaper about the 'new police powers' to fight terrorism. It hasn't been very long, but already Sheriff BillyBob has made good use of it. He only has to 'suspect' you might be a terrorist; you sit in jail while he figures out 'something good' to charge you with.

While we have been making America safe, we have forgotten the true terror from within. However despicable we consider the acts of Timothy McVeigh and Usama bin Laden, they were created by and born of the failure of the American People to take control of the 'reasonable, responsible and respectable' behavior of our own government.

'We have met the Enemy, and it is Us.' �Pogo-
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/amoj/52articlespage.cfm?articleno=8

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 9/11 - Everything discredited by our discussion on AMOJ
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:10:25 -0400
From: Jonathon Moseley ruthercap@earthlink.net


See, here again is what is wrong with conspiracy theories.

FIRST... Anti-American French lunatic writes a book
claiming that the hole was only 16 feet wide, and therefore
it must have been a missile.

The French lunatic bases this on a photograph TAKEN
HOURS IF NOT DAYS LATER, in which smoke obscures
most of the hole, making a measurement inaccurate.

This "measurement" was from a photograph HOURS or
DAYS later. not between first and second explosions, if any.

Therefore, the whole sensation begins by French Lunatic
hating America and selling a book to others who hate
America, based on a 16 foot hole.

SECOND... We discover that French lunatic is WRONG,
and the hole was in fact 90 feet wide.

THIRD... Faced with this stark proof that their wild
theory is wrong, the conspiracy peddlers CHANGE
THEIR STORY, rather than admit they were WRONG.

You see, no conspiracy theorist is ever "wrong" because
their stories keep changing by the hour.

Jon Moseley

AMOJ - What does AMOJ stand for? Definitions by the Free Online ...

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AMOJ at Work
What we at AMOJ want and need to do:
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/amoj/10about.cfm

Educate all citizen's about the realities of Our United States legal system.

Document instances of abuse endured from lawyers, judges and other public servants.

Through evidence-in-fact, publically expose the extent of corruption in the legal system.
- Create a Citizen's Judical Review and a Public Service Review.

Demonstrate citizens civil rights problems with the current state in our legal system.
Nothing can be done to improve acountability when our governments are "self-governed".
- Write Public Service and Judicial Accountability Initiative Laws.

Documentation of abuses sent to the States' Judicial Review Boards.
- What judges are disciplined as a result of complaints, the reprimands they received.

Document abuses regarding Friend of the Court, attorney and forensic psychologists.
- Make public documents available regarding the performance of public officials.

AMOJ
PO Box 1209, Dahlgren, Va 22448-1209
E-mail: justicematters@amatterofjustice.org

AMOJ Leadership

President - Jacob Roginsky, Ph.D.
president@amatterofjustice.org  Phone: 800-567-4930
P.O. Box 1209, Dahlgren, Virginia 22448-1209

Secretary-Treasurer - Frank Butash
AMOJ Education Foundation
FrankButash@email.msn.com  Phone: 860-232-7173
Fax: 860-232-3037
229 South Quaker Lane, West Hartford, CT, 06119

Member of the Board - Jonathon Mosley
Ruthercap@earthlink.net  Phone:

Member of the Board - Juanita Burns
mburns8@columbus.rr.com  Phone: 740-452-5941

Webmaster - Ken Wiggins
webmaster@amatterofjustice.org  Phone: (231)264-9825
131 N.W. Torch Lake Dr., Kewadin, MI 49648
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/amoj/30leaders.cfm

PO Box 1209, Dahlgren, Va 22448-1209
E-mail: justicematters@amatterofjustice.org

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