9/11 - "THE NATIONAL DEBATE IS ON!"

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9/11 - "THE NATIONAL DEBATE IS ON!"

Sun Jul 9, 2006 03:39

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With millions of Americans now questioning the U.S. government’s official account of the events surrounding September 11, 2001, and with a growing number of professors, engineers, and former government officials, men and women that are uniquely qualified to challenge the government’s account of how World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7 collapsed, as well as the government’s official account of the events at the Pentagon and United Flight 93, it is now time for the nation to witness a fearless and thorough debate on 9/11 that publicly answers the questions and concerns of a troubled and divided nation. It’s time for The National 9/11 Debate™.
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* RE: 9/11 & A Matter Of Justice Coalition —
President - Jacob Roginsky, Ph.D., Sun Jul 9 01:39

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 9/11 & The "veiled" sarcasm was not lost on me.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2006 01:52:13 -0400

From: Jacob Roginsky jrogins@va.metrocast.net

To: holmgren@iinet.net.au, Laura Knight-Jadczyk lark2@cassiopaea.com

Thank you, Mr. Holmgren.

It seems to me we should first agree on 1) the focus, 2) the rules, 3) the format, and 4) the place of the debate.

Allow me to begin by offering my thoughts on the items 4 and 1, in the same order.

PLACE OF DEBATE
Perhaps it would be best for us to create a small yahoogroups list that would include all individuals and lists we deem desirable as recipients of our exchanges, but without the posting privileges. Those who wish to provide input may contact you and me -- jointly or individually -- off the list.

I initially offered to debate directly in the APFN forum. However, I since received hostile communications from Mr. APFN, who seems to think he could intimidate me, and realized (as well as recalled from the past) that his forum is unsuitable for any truth-finding and/or intellectual pursuit. Of course, the APFN list should be included as a recipient of our exchanges. The main forum of my organization, A Matter of Justice (AMOJ), ought to be included as a recipient of our exchanges as well, especially given its wide distribution, which seems to be one of your conditions for participating in the debate.

DEBATE'S FOCUS
The focus of the debate ought to be that which started this thread, although I am open to reasonable suggestions of other kinds. What has started this thread were the discussions in the AMOJ forum on whether or not the 9/11 conspiracy theories and claims espoused by various individuals and organizations are meritorious. Some of our members are in full or partial support of such conspiracy theories and claims, while others, including myself, have found them to be woefully inadequate and, in most cases, downright fraudulent. Someone forwarded our messages to APFN, where our forum was apparently mocked with a sarcastic remark that we have resolved all the 911 conspiracy issues. I responded with a proposal to debate the best conspiracy theorist on the APFN list. You know the rest. It seems then that the focus of the debate ought to be the merits of those 9/11 conspiracy theories and claims which you consider to be most meritorious.

Your thoughts, positions as to the above two items?

Jacob Roginsky

Laura Knight-Jadczyk wrote:

>On 8 Jul 2006, at 17:53, Rosalee Grable wrote:
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>>Gerard Holmgren holmgren@iinet.net.au
Gerard Holmgren: Debunking Conspiracy Theorists
Debunking Conspiracy Theorists Paranoid Fantasies About 9-11 Detract From Real Issues. By Gerard Holmgren, 2003-02-15 ...
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm

Physical and Mathematical Analysis of the Pentagon Crash
by Gerard Holmgren, 2002-10-23 ... Copyright 2002 Gerard Holmgren. This work may be freely copied and distributed without permission as long as it is not ...
GOOGLE: MORE>

>>would be more than happy to debate Roginsky at any forum which would be
>>widely distribuited and free from interference.
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>The terms of engagement ought to include that no claim or evidence of the
>U.S. Bush Administration or its various government bodies can be accepted as
>evidence without independent, third party corroboration. After all, it is
>the Administration that is the suspect on trial, and so it may not be
>allowed to be the adjudicator of its own evidence for the defense.
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ENTER: TOTAL 911 INFO
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