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The Edomites were in Israel when the JEWS were in Israel
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The Edomites were in Israel when the JEWS were in Israel

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The word nokri (ben nekhar), covers everything of alien or foreign character, regardless of the place of residence, and is defined by the context in which it appears. It embraces the Canaanites, who descended from Ham's incestuous behavior, and the Moabites and Ammonites who descended from Lot's cohabitation with his own daughters. These nokri were strictly taboo with no rights or privileges in the Israel community. Their status was that of a bastard -- in Hebrew, a "mamser", meaning one of mixed or spurious origins -- being specifically prevented by Divine Decree, from entering the congregation of the Lord even to his tenth generation (Deuteronomy 23:2-3). That is, never! While the subject of marriage between the ger and the toshabh is not mentioned, marriage with the nokri is positively forbidden (Genesis 24:3). The Serpent's seed are Nokri.
The Hebrew word zar, takes its definition, like the other words, from the context. The word appears in connection with enemy aliens or a foreign race (Serpent's seed) with no rights whatsoever in Israel. Even justice is denied the zar. In all Israel's national disasters, the zar is reckoned the main contributing factor. And in each of the following three examples this judgment has befallen Israel because like Eve, Israel has broken God's Covenant. Isaiah 1:7, "your country is ruined and desolate, your cities are burned, and while you watch helplessly strangers (zar) destroy and plunder everything in sight . . ." Hosea 5:7, "They have dealt treacherously against the Lord, bearing strange (zar) children." Hosea 7:9, "Strangers (zar) have devoured his strength, and he knows it not." (See also Leviticus 26:16, 32; Isaiah 17:10; 25:2, 5; 28:21; 29:5, 43:12; 61:5).
One English word "stranger" thus translated from the four Hebrew words tends to obscure the true relationship required by God in dealing with other people. And in a similar way, the English word "Coming" translated from two Greek words "erchomai" and "parousia" has produced great confusion among nominal believers, most of whom actually imagine the Man from Galilee will physically descend from the clouds, when this is not what the Bible is teaching.
In Deuteronomy 23:7 we read, "You shall not abhor an Edomite; for Esau was your brother: you shall not abhor an Egyptian, for you were a stranger in his land".


How about a German, an Englishman, Australian, Russian, a Canadian or an American? If the Israelites were "strangers" in the land of Egypt, much more are they who call themselves "Jews," strangers in these lands today. They should reverence their hosts, and the host countries and behave as considerate guests, not account themselves permanent citizens in these far-away lands where, according to the Bible, they are "strangers," and as the Land of Palestine has been given them, they have no Scriptural authority to be.
In her book, "My Life", former Prime Minister of Israel Mrs. Golda Meir, recalls the seventh meeting of the Canadian Jewish Congress in Spring of 1947, where future Zionist leader, Dr. Nahum Goldmann explained, "We insisted on Palestine not because of religious, historical or sentimental reasons, but because Palestine is a turning table of three continents and in the military, political, and strategic sense it is the world's Center." "Besides," -- added added speaker Goldman, quoting a statement which appeared in the "Congressional Bulletin" -- "the oil reserves in this area are much higher than on the whole American continent."
These people care not a fig for the Promised Land God gave to the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They considered settlements in Australia, Africa, Madagascar, Poland and South America. Those who settled present-day Israel were often illegal refugees forced onto ships against their will. These are "strangers" in the land of Israel today as they were "strangers" in the lands of Germany, Poland, Russia, Austria, Hungary or America yesterday. According to Scripture, they are wanderers with no inheritance in any land.


But the God of Israel knows who are His. All things work together for good to those who love God and are the called according to His purpose. In His providence the World Wars were to establish Israel in the Homeland so He could fulfill prophecy -- NOT create a Mafia state for "strangers" to hijack the world. There a tiny remnant of the predestinated true seed of Abraham, Isaac and Israel shall be restored in the Covenant Land. There the God of their forefathers will meet them in the ministry of the two prophets of Zechariah 4.
Beware wolves in sheep's clothing. Beware of "strangers." Test all things by the PRESENT Truth of God's unchanging Word. All Israel is NOT Israel, and all Christendom is NOT Christian.
Let's not be too hasty to amalgamate with every group that claims to follow the same teaching. Give them the Word test. We can only know God as we understand the Logos, not as we agree on the Rhema. As Paul observed, the letter is death, whereas the Spirit is Life.
The question that arises is what was the status of the Edomites


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Deuteronomy 7:1-4, "When the LORD brings you into the Promised Land, He'll cast out the following seven nations, all greater and mightier than you are: the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites. And when the LORD God delivers them to you; you shall smite and utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant nor show mercy to them: Neither shall you intermarry with them nor let your sons and daughter marry their sons and daughters for they will turn away your sons from following Me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, to destroy you suddenly".
God's Word is Spirit and It is Life. All of His creation is Spirit manifested into the material world through His creative Word. And His law of reproduction states that "everything bring forth of its own kind, whose seed is in itself". The spoken Word is the original seed. Cain and his race are not God's manifested Word. They are not His seed but a hybrid of the Serpent's seed in Eve. Therefore they are not on the Book of Life and without a Redeemer. Now you can see why they hate the sound of the Name, "Lord Jesus Christ"?
Jesus Christ is the second Adam. He is the sinless near kinsman of the first Adam and died to redeem Adam and all of Adam's seed who were potentially in Adam. Jesus Christ did not die to redeem Cain or any of his race because they are not the seed of the first Adam and Jesus can not redeem them, because He is no kinsman of Cain.


Is it any wonder we read in Genesis 3:15 that God placed "enmity", that's hatred, between Adam's race and Cain's race? Whereas Cain's people, by deception, control the material wealth of the world, they have no inheritance in this world or the next.
Now in our second Scripture, Deuteronomy 28:15, God is speaking to His servant Nation, Israel, expounding the blessings for complete obedience to His Word such as we've just read. "It shall come to pass, if you will not hearken unto the voice of the LORD your God, to observe to do ALL His commandments and His statutes which I command you this day; that all these curses shall come upon you, and overtake you".
As we know, Israel failed to obey all of God's commandments. For a start, they did not destroy the Serpent's seed people in their land, and today, those people are destroying Israel.
Brother Branham said, "The world is going insane". The uninformed "Joe citizens" must wonder why everything is so out of order, why politics are upside down, why the once Christian West who own and control the world's resources and who developed its industries and invented its technologies, is bankrupt, and after apparent victory in two World Wars, why we are the tail instead of the head.
Who is the head? There's so much confusion concerning the nature of world and local events, because people don't truly believe the prophecies of God's unchanging Word, the Holy Bible.


The Bible foretold that from 1914 there would be no peace on earth until the Millennium, before which, Armageddon destroys all life.
The Bible foretold the disobedience and feral nature of so many of today's youth whom the Prophet calls "atomic fodder". These are the product of unbelieving parents and apostate churches upon whom the wrath of God will pour because of that iniquity. A depredation of morals, homosexuality, destruction of marriage and family life was foretold. False teachers, lying prophets and deceiving spirits in the churches and treacherous self-serving politicians were also predicted. Bible readers know God will soon turn back to Israel, but also that Israel will be killed.
Surely it's plain to see that God has raised up certain men, even nations, for destruction, and others for glory. Nations are simply the offspring of men. Israel is the continuation of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it preserves their characteristics and is heir to their Promises; whilst Edom is the extension of Esau and his attributes, and heir to his curse. For God said, "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated".
Isn't it clear that there's an element of race in Scripture? There has to be if the original sin produced a race of people uncreated by God, a people wholly unrelated to Adam and therefore not on the Book of Life. One should be careful not to marry into Cain's race. Before they were even born, God by foreknowledge declared, "Jacob have I loved; Esau have I hated". Esau intermarried with Cain's race.
It's important that we have some understanding of racial destiny as prophesied in God's Word. If we're not aware that each racial group is acting-out or fulfilling their destiny already foretold in Scripture, we can never recognize that underneath the apparent disorder of world politics, a Divine order is causing all things to work together for good to them that love God.


Those with faith (or a clear understanding of God's Word) will not try to recreate the good times of the '60s and '70s. And they will not attempt to have revival in the churches. That would be futile. Those days will never return. World conditions, living standards, the economy, etc,. will continue to deteriorate, because we're at the end of the world system. All of man's systems have come to an end and must be burned with fire before God's Millennium can come.
This is God's Word. Prove it! Read II Timothy 3 and 4, Revelation 3:17-20, and Matthew 24. Accept that God's Word is so, and that we have come to the end, so you won't waste your emotional strength and material resources trying to go back to the past. Then learn what God promised He would do in His children in this day, and how He's made provision to take us from the world before destruction.
We need to or actuality in order to identify God's living Word. For instance in Malachi 4:5-6 we read, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse".


In these two verses we have several prophetic facts which sinners attribute to John the Baptist:-
1) Elijah the prophet will come before the tribulation.
The historical actuality is that 2,000 years have passed since John the Baptist and the great and dreadful day of the Lord or end of the Gentile dispensation is yet future. So John the Baptist wasn't THIS Elijah!
2) The prophet will turn the heart of the fathers to the children.
The fathers were the Patriarchs of the Old Testament but they died long before John's day. Had John fulfilled these Words of prophecy in his lifetime a resurrection of the Patriarchs would be required for him to preach to them, and John would have denied the Law of Moses, and all the prophets who came after the Patriarchs.
The fact is, that nearly four years after his death, after Calvary and Pentecost, John's ministry resulted in the hearts of the apostolic fathers turning to the children born of God's Spirit -- both Israelite and Gentile.
3) Elijah will restore the heart of the children to their fathers.
This part of Malachi's prophecy can't pertain to John because it speaks of a ministry restoring the apostolic faith which was revealed after the days of John. Had this been John, he would have denied the Law of Moses, and the Messiah he forerun, and restored the teachings of the Patriarchs.
The historic fact is that John was the Elijah of Malachi 3:1, "My messenger, shall prepare the way before Me: and the Lord, Whom you seek, shall suddenly come to His Temple, even the Messenger of the (New) Covenant, in Whom you delight. . ." He was not the Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6, who would RESTORE -- "ALL things that God has spoken by the mouth of ALL His holy prophets since the world began" -- the FULLNESS of the Word, Christ, "before the great and dreadful day of the Lord" (Acts 3:21; I Corinthians 13:10; Revelation 10:7).
How could John restore the Fullness of the Word when It was "sealed with Seven Seals unto the time of the end" (Daniel 12:4, 9 and Revelation 10:4)?
According to Jesus, John restored nothing. On the contrary, John "laid the ax to the root of all trees (or the denominational teachings of Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, Essenes, Zealots, etc)".
4) After the heart of God's children is restored to the apostolic faith, tribulation plagues will smite the earth and all on it with their curse.
This Elijah was not John, because 2,000 years have passed, and God hasn't yet smitten the earth with a curse.


Now we know the Jews were looking for Messiah to come and kick out the Romans, and restore the throne of David. That's the Millennium and the THIRD (or second PHYSICAL) Coming of the glorified Christ. Israel wanted a General but God sent a Baby according to His Word.
The Pharisees asked John if he was the Christ. When he said "No", they asked, "Are you the Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6"? Again he said, "No". They asked, "If you're not Messiah and you're not the Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6, who are you"? John replied, "I'm the Elijah of Malachi 3:1, the Elijah of Isaiah 40:3". Read it -- John 1:19-26.
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