Cal Steinberger
RE: APFN - The Lies Must Be Exposed
Sat Jun 11, 2005 18:00
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:28:30 -0500
From: Cal Steinberger cals@valornet.com
Thanks APFN. I am still wondering what it will take to get this president "impeached"? Think back on the Nixon years. He resigned over a silly break in. No one was innocently killed, and, our integrity was not compromised around the world. The Muslims did'nt hate us, and everyone was still on speaking terms. And, then there was Clinton, the worst excuse for a president that we ever had in our entire history. He was dishonest to the core, immoral, and a total liar. But again, no one was innocently killed. Have we now become so neutered that we no longer care? Apparently so!!! And, now this president is planning to make Clinton the new Secretary General of the UN. Good Lord! This should be the last straw.
Regards,
Cal
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From: APFN
To: !LEAK-GATE ; APFN Yahoogroups
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: APFN - The Lies Must Be Exposed
Dick Fojut Graphics
The Lies Must Be Exposed
Thu Jun 9, 2005 22:17
From Dick Fojut,
Dick Fojut Graphics in Tucson, Arizona
r.fojut@worldnet.att.net
-------------
If you haven't yet seen this, you may be interested to read the following excerpts...
MONSTROUS LIES ARE CAUSING CHRISTIANS
AND MUSLIMS TO KILL EACH OTHER
The Lies Must Be Exposed
- by Dick Fojut
http://www.rense.com/general65/monstrousliesarecausing.htm
June 8, 2005
---------------
(Open URL above for full article)
Excerpts only...
Primary is the Monstrous 9/11 LIE about "19 TERRORIST MUSLIM HIJACKERS!"
THE FOUNDATION EXCUSE, continuing to be used today by Bush and Blair to "justify" their never-to-end "WAR ON (Muslim) TERRORISM" was and is the (phoney) list of "19 TERRORIST MUSLIM HIJACKERS" with their (supposed) names and photos, presented to the entire world on TV and print media, a few days after 9/11.
But most Americans have never been told that SEVEN of the FBI identified 19 Hijackers were found alive and well after 9/11 (by British Newspapers). The Seven men had NOT been on the 4 airliners!
-------------
Prove to yourself that our government's 19 Hijackers list is a lie, by going to the Google search engine and type in 911 HIJACKERS ALIVE - for multiple articles and news stories!
Especially read and look at the photos in the following...
HIJACKERS ALIVE AND WELL SEPTEMBER 11TH http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.html
And also read the following 3 Emails, reporting the above SEVEN FOUND ALIVE, that I personally sent years back to my (formerly trusted) Arizona Senators Jon Kyl and John McCain (which they NEVER acknowledged), with copies also sent to MANY hundreds of others in the Senate, House, local and national "news" media...
7 OF 19 FBI IDENTIFIED HIJACKERS LOCATED ALIVE AFTER WTC ATTACKS
http://www.rense.com/general20/alives.htm
SEN. KYL: WHEN WILL PRETENSE ABOUT THE 19 HIJACKERS CEASE?
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen03.html
PROOF ISRAEL/RICHARD PERLE DICTATING WAR ON IRAQ?
http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm
"Evidence" ISRAELI Intelligence fabricated the phoney 19 Muslim Hijackers list? That was suggested in the Scottish Sunday Herald, Nov, 2, 2003. Neil Mackay investigated...
http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707
Excerpt only...
"In August, 2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects -
on it were the names of four of the September 11 hijackers."
The REAL REASON we invaded Iraq - (to keep Israel Safe and Secure)...
'IRAQ WAS INVADED TO SECURE ISRAEL,' says
Senator Hollings, and 'Everybody Knows It.' - July 1 6, 2004
http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml
full article at)...
http://www.rense.com/general65/monstrousliesarecausing.htm
-------------------
IMPEACHMENT TIME: "FACTS WERE FIXED."
'Downing Street Memo' Gets Fresh Attention
By Mark Memmott
USA Today
Wednesday 08 June 2005
A simmering controversy over whether American media have ignored a secret British memo about how President Bush built his case for war with Iraq bubbled over into the White House on Tuesday.
At a late afternoon news conference, Reuters correspondent Steve Holland asked Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair about a memo that's been widely written about and discussed in Europe but less so in the USA.
It was the most attention paid by the media in the USA so far to the "Downing Street memo," first reported on May 1 by The Sunday Times of London. The memo is said by some of the president's sharpest critics, such as Democratic Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, to be strong evidence that Bush decided to go to war and then looked for evidence to support his decision.
The Sunday Times said the memo is the minutes of a meeting that British Prime Minister Tony Blair had with some of his top intelligence and foreign policy aides on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street, the prime minister's official residence. The story said the memo indicates that Blair was told by the head of Britain's MI6 intelligence service that in 2002, the Bush administration was selectively choosing evidence that supported its case for going to war and ignoring anything to the contrary. The war began in March 2003.
"Intelligence and facts were being fixed" by the Bush administration "around" a policy that saw military action "as inevitable," the newspaper quoted from the memo.
"There's nothing farther from the truth," Bush told reporters as Blair stood at his side. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," Bush said in response to a question about the memo. "It was our last option."
Blair added, "The facts were not being 'fixed' in any shape or form at all."
Bush said that at the time the memo was written, no decision had been made about going to war. He pointed out that it was written two months before he went to the United Nations and asked for a Security Council resolution calling on Saddam Hussein to give up his weapons of mass destruction or face "serious consequences."
The Sunday Times' May 1 memo story, which broke just four days before Britain's national elections, caused a sensation in Europe. American media reacted more cautiously. The New York Times wrote about the memo May 2, but didn't mention until its 15th paragraph that the memo stated U.S. officials had "fixed" intelligence and facts.
Knight Ridder Newspapers distributed a story May 6 that said the memo "claims President Bush ... was determined to ensure that U.S. intelligence data supported his policy." The Los Angeles Times wrote about the memo May 12, The Washington Post followed on May 15 and The New York Times revisited the news on May 20.
None of the stories appeared on the newspapers' front pages. Several other major media outlets, including the evening news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC, had not said a word about the document before Tuesday. Today marks USA TODAY's first mention.
Some activists who opposed Bush's decision to attack Iraq have been peppering editors with letters and e-mails to push the media into more aggressive coverage. Last week, a group known as Democrats.com offered $1,000 to anyone who can get Bush to answer "yes or no" to this question: Did he or his administration "fix the intelligence" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to terrorism?
"We want what the Michael Jackson, Paris Hilton and Star Wars stories have gotten: endless repetition until people have heard about it," says David Swanson, one of Democrats.com's organizers.
Robin Niblett of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, says it would be easy for Americans to misunderstand the reference to intelligence being "fixed around" Iraq policy. " 'Fixed around' in British English means 'bolted on' rather than altered to fit the policy," he says.
Ombudsmen at both The New York Times and The Washington Post have been critical of their newspapers for not covering the story more aggressively.
USA TODAY chose not to publish anything about the memo before today for several reasons, says Jim Cox, the newspaper's senior assignment editor for foreign news. "We could not obtain the memo or a copy of it from a reliable source," Cox says. "There was no explicit confirmation of its authenticity from (Blair's office). And it was disclosed four days before the British elections, raising concerns about the timing."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/060905Z.shtml
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9/11 Blogger - Blogging 9/11 Related Alternative News: Ausome new ...
Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI John Vincent,
Veteran Special Agent, FBI Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI ...
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/ausome-new-sibel-info.html
================================
Agents Challenge 9/11 Commission —William F. Jasper, Thu Jun 9 20:55
The Lies Must Be Exposed —Dick Fojut Graphics, Thu Jun 9 22:17
New 9/11 report on FBI details pre-attack chronology —9/11 RESEARCH, Thu Jun 9 21:17
Downing Street Memo - gift that just keeps on giving —David Michael Green, Thu Jun 9 14:48
(Cont'd) Downing Street Memo - —David Michael Green, Thu Jun 9 14:56
Downing Street Memo' Gets Fresh Attention —USA Today, Thu Jun 9 15:03
"Worse then Watergate" !
Intelligence Identities Protection Act (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.) >>
# # #
IMPEACHMENT TIME: "FACTS WERE FIXED."
http://www.gregpalast.com/index.cfm
===================================
The memo was leaked this year to the Times of London, which printed it on May 1. The story, coming on the eve of Blair's reelection, generated extensive press coverage in Britain. In setting up his question to Mehlman on Sunday, Russert said, "Let me turn to the now famous Downing Street memo" (emphasis added).
MORE:>>
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/060905E.shtml
Subject: Fw: APFN - The Lies Must Be Exposed
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:28:30 -0500
From: Cal Steinberger cals@valornet.com
Thanks APFN. I am still wondering what it will take to get this president "impeached"? Think back on the Nixon years. He resigned over a silly break in. No one was innocently killed, and, our integrity was not compromised around the world. The Muslims did'nt hate us, and everyone was still on speaking terms. And, then there was Clinton, the worst excuse for a president that we ever had in our entire history. He was dishonest to the core, immoral, and a total liar. But again, no one was innocently killed. Have we now become so neutered that we no longer care? Apparently so!!! And, now this president is planning to make Clinton the new Secretary General of the UN. Good Lord! This should be the last straw.
Regards,
Cal
----- Original Message -----
From: APFN
To: !LEAK-GATE ; APFN Yahoogroups
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: APFN - The Lies Must Be Exposed
Dick Fojut Graphics
The Lies Must Be Exposed
Thu Jun 9, 2005 22:17
From Dick Fojut,
Dick Fojut Graphics in Tucson, Arizona
r.fojut@worldnet.att.net
-------------
If you haven't yet seen this, you may be interested to read the following excerpts...
MONSTROUS LIES ARE CAUSING CHRISTIANS
AND MUSLIMS TO KILL EACH OTHER
The Lies Must Be Exposed
- by Dick Fojut
http://www.rense.com/general65/monstrousliesarecausing.htm
June 8, 2005
---------------
(Open URL above for full article)
Excerpts only...
Primary is the Monstrous 9/11 LIE about "19 TERRORIST MUSLIM HIJACKERS!"
THE FOUNDATION EXCUSE, continuing to be used today by Bush and Blair to "justify" their never-to-end "WAR ON (Muslim) TERRORISM" was and is the (phoney) list of "19 TERRORIST MUSLIM HIJACKERS" with their (supposed) names and photos, presented to the entire world on TV and print media, a few days after 9/11.
But most Americans have never been told that SEVEN of the FBI identified 19 Hijackers were found alive and well after 9/11 (by British Newspapers). The Seven men had NOT been on the 4 airliners!
-------------
Prove to yourself that our government's 19 Hijackers list is a lie, by going to the Google search engine and type in 911 HIJACKERS ALIVE - for multiple articles and news stories!
Especially read and look at the photos in the following...
HIJACKERS ALIVE AND WELL SEPTEMBER 11TH http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.html
And also read the following 3 Emails, reporting the above SEVEN FOUND ALIVE, that I personally sent years back to my (formerly trusted) Arizona Senators Jon Kyl and John McCain (which they NEVER acknowledged), with copies also sent to MANY hundreds of others in the Senate, House, local and national "news" media...
7 OF 19 FBI IDENTIFIED HIJACKERS LOCATED ALIVE AFTER WTC ATTACKS
http://www.rense.com/general20/alives.htm
SEN. KYL: WHEN WILL PRETENSE ABOUT THE 19 HIJACKERS CEASE?
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen03.html
PROOF ISRAEL/RICHARD PERLE DICTATING WAR ON IRAQ?
http://www.rense.com/general29/perl.htm
"Evidence" ISRAELI Intelligence fabricated the phoney 19 Muslim Hijackers list? That was suggested in the Scottish Sunday Herald, Nov, 2, 2003. Neil Mackay investigated...
http://ww1.sundayherald.com/print37707
Excerpt only...
"In August, 2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects -
on it were the names of four of the September 11 hijackers."
The REAL REASON we invaded Iraq - (to keep Israel Safe and Secure)...
'IRAQ WAS INVADED TO SECURE ISRAEL,' says
Senator Hollings, and 'Everybody Knows It.' - July 1 6, 2004
http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml
full article at)...
http://www.rense.com/general65/monstrousliesarecausing.htm
-------------------
IMPEACHMENT TIME: "FACTS WERE FIXED."
'Downing Street Memo' Gets Fresh Attention
By Mark Memmott
USA Today
Wednesday 08 June 2005
A simmering controversy over whether American media have ignored a secret British memo about how President Bush built his case for war with Iraq bubbled over into the White House on Tuesday.
At a late afternoon news conference, Reuters correspondent Steve Holland asked Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair about a memo that's been widely written about and discussed in Europe but less so in the USA.
It was the most attention paid by the media in the USA so far to the "Downing Street memo," first reported on May 1 by The Sunday Times of London. The memo is said by some of the president's sharpest critics, such as Democratic Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, to be strong evidence that Bush decided to go to war and then looked for evidence to support his decision.
The Sunday Times said the memo is the minutes of a meeting that British Prime Minister Tony Blair had with some of his top intelligence and foreign policy aides on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street, the prime minister's official residence. The story said the memo indicates that Blair was told by the head of Britain's MI6 intelligence service that in 2002, the Bush administration was selectively choosing evidence that supported its case for going to war and ignoring anything to the contrary. The war began in March 2003.
"Intelligence and facts were being fixed" by the Bush administration "around" a policy that saw military action "as inevitable," the newspaper quoted from the memo.
"There's nothing farther from the truth," Bush told reporters as Blair stood at his side. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," Bush said in response to a question about the memo. "It was our last option."
Blair added, "The facts were not being 'fixed' in any shape or form at all."
Bush said that at the time the memo was written, no decision had been made about going to war. He pointed out that it was written two months before he went to the United Nations and asked for a Security Council resolution calling on Saddam Hussein to give up his weapons of mass destruction or face "serious consequences."
The Sunday Times' May 1 memo story, which broke just four days before Britain's national elections, caused a sensation in Europe. American media reacted more cautiously. The New York Times wrote about the memo May 2, but didn't mention until its 15th paragraph that the memo stated U.S. officials had "fixed" intelligence and facts.
Knight Ridder Newspapers distributed a story May 6 that said the memo "claims President Bush ... was determined to ensure that U.S. intelligence data supported his policy." The Los Angeles Times wrote about the memo May 12, The Washington Post followed on May 15 and The New York Times revisited the news on May 20.
None of the stories appeared on the newspapers' front pages. Several other major media outlets, including the evening news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC, had not said a word about the document before Tuesday. Today marks USA TODAY's first mention.
Some activists who opposed Bush's decision to attack Iraq have been peppering editors with letters and e-mails to push the media into more aggressive coverage. Last week, a group known as Democrats.com offered $1,000 to anyone who can get Bush to answer "yes or no" to this question: Did he or his administration "fix the intelligence" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to terrorism?
"We want what the Michael Jackson, Paris Hilton and Star Wars stories have gotten: endless repetition until people have heard about it," says David Swanson, one of Democrats.com's organizers.
Robin Niblett of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, says it would be easy for Americans to misunderstand the reference to intelligence being "fixed around" Iraq policy. " 'Fixed around' in British English means 'bolted on' rather than altered to fit the policy," he says.
Ombudsmen at both The New York Times and The Washington Post have been critical of their newspapers for not covering the story more aggressively.
USA TODAY chose not to publish anything about the memo before today for several reasons, says Jim Cox, the newspaper's senior assignment editor for foreign news. "We could not obtain the memo or a copy of it from a reliable source," Cox says. "There was no explicit confirmation of its authenticity from (Blair's office). And it was disclosed four days before the British elections, raising concerns about the timing."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/060905Z.shtml
-------
9/11 Blogger - Blogging 9/11 Related Alternative News: Ausome new ...
Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI John Vincent,
Veteran Special Agent, FBI Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI ...
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/ausome-new-sibel-info.html
================================
Agents Challenge 9/11 Commission —William F. Jasper, Thu Jun 9 20:55
The Lies Must Be Exposed —Dick Fojut Graphics, Thu Jun 9 22:17
New 9/11 report on FBI details pre-attack chronology —9/11 RESEARCH, Thu Jun 9 21:17
Downing Street Memo - gift that just keeps on giving —David Michael Green, Thu Jun 9 14:48
(Cont'd) Downing Street Memo - —David Michael Green, Thu Jun 9 14:56
Downing Street Memo' Gets Fresh Attention —USA Today, Thu Jun 9 15:03
"Worse then Watergate" !
Intelligence Identities Protection Act (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.) >>
# # #
IMPEACHMENT TIME: "FACTS WERE FIXED."
http://www.gregpalast.com/index.cfm
===================================
The memo was leaked this year to the Times of London, which printed it on May 1. The story, coming on the eve of Blair's reelection, generated extensive press coverage in Britain. In setting up his question to Mehlman on Sunday, Russert said, "Let me turn to the now famous Downing Street memo" (emphasis added).
MORE:>>
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/060905E.shtml
- Downing Street minutes that lasted for months —Philippe Naughton, Times Online, Sat Jun 11 19:52
- MEMOGATE: 478,348 Signatures and Counting —ranger116@webtv.net, Sat Jun 11 19:59
- Democracy thwarted at Judiciary Committee Hearing —Jim Sensenbrenner, Sat Jun 11 18:18
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