Med Osman
RE: As 9/11 debunkers drift, controversial theory lingers
Sat May 1, 2004 23:02
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Med Osman medfly1@cox.net  wrote:

I think John Kaminski is right about 9/11, which has all the hallmarks of JFK's assassination. I wouldn't be surprised by the government deliberately throwing some far fetched scenarios aimed at derailing serious investigation into what happened in 9/11 and to introduce some elements to ridicule the so-called conspiracy theorists.

There is no way that any average citizen or investigator can find let alone have access to a smoking gun. All the evidence has been destroyed, the same way as JFK's brain was thrown to the fish in the Potomac to get rid of any evidence on the origin of the bullet used to shatter his skull and brain, to maintain the single assassin theory. A single assassin that was killed to prevent him from speaking up and defending himself, the same way as those alleged 19 hi-jackers were silenced somehow, most likely far away from those hi-jacked airplanes, to prevent anybody from poking holes into the official party line. Of course the fact that 5 of the 19 named alleged hi-jackers are still alive, this never prompted any investigation by the FBI or any other investigative body, because the truth is not the issue here, there is a bigger plan and everybody stuck to the prepared script.

As far as airplanes used to carry out 9/11, I firmly believe that AA 93, the one that hit the North Tower existed and also the other airplane that hit the Southern tower was a true airplane, and the story of having something launched from it before impact with the tower, this might be true from the video tapes, which explains this big ball of fire.

But regardless of whether the airplane was fitted with missiles or external explosives pods on the fuselage, how could anybody have fitted those airplanes with external pods, which is not an easy task, it's a major engineering effort it can't be done by bubble gum, and can one explain that the airplane did not look right to the flight line mechanics who crawl all over the airplane, check under its cowlings and compartments and surround the airplane and check it for any anomalies before departure, at the gate until it is pushed back for taxiing to the active runway. Were the flight line mechanics also memebers of "Al Qaeda" or "Mossad"?

How about the security agency responsible for checking out the passengers at the gates, I read in a previous article that the security firms at the airports from all the hi-jacked airplanes took off are owned by Israelis, the fact which again point the finger to Israel's Mossad being responsible for carrying out the whole operation, while our investigative institutions took care of eliminating any evidence pointing to them. Same role afterJFK's assassination.

This explains the unquestionable support by the Bush Administration to Israel, out of being partners in 9/11 and the alleged "war on terrorism" which helps the Bush Administration justify waging wars wherever they smell oil in Central Asia and Iraq, their favorite commodity, and to funnel federal dollars to the military industrial complex, the second favorite business to the Buhies after oil which brings up the name of the Carlyle Group, and for Israel it gives Ariel Sharon free hand in killing and destroying the homes and infrastructure of the Palestinians by calling them terrorists, which they have been doing with the blessing of the Bush Administration , their accomplice in 9/11 and also out of blackmail since the Israelis know the fatal secrets of the Administration's involvement in 9/11 and they can use our media to make them uncomfortable by throwing bits and pieces of evidence, as they did lately with the pictures of torturing of Iraqi prsioners by American GI's.

However, the fact that defies all the laws of physics is the claim that Kerosene, or rather JP-4 used in those airplanes can burn like high-octane gas, this doesn't happen unless you use some sort of explosive device to initiate the combustion process, since JP-4 has a high flashpoint, unlike regular octane gas used in cars or piston engine airplanes. Besides, claiming that it generated so much heat inside the building in the absence of oxygen, this is also a scientific falasy and again the laws of physics like everything else seem not to be working on 9/11.

The other jet in Pennsylvania, also existed since some people living in the vicinity of the crash site witnessed a fighter jet shooting it down, supposedly launched from Otis AFB, and is the only airplane where the passengers must have fought and overcome the hi-jackers using coffee pots or whatever tools available in the cabin to take control of the airplane, which if they managed to land the airplane safely, and they could have been led to a dry bed in California or something, it would have revealed the true identity of the hi-jackers, which is none of the alleged 19 Arabs, of whom 5 still live in Saudi Arabia according to the Saudi Government, and the whole plot would have fell apart resulting in a scandal that would have dwarfed Watergate, since this one involves killing American citizens with the forward knowledge and complicity of the Administration.

Now Flt. 77 which allegedly hit the Pentagon, and this one needs that we take a good puff of the same stuff that those who made it up, use so that we can start to believe it. Claiming that someone who flies Cessna's 152 or 172 managed to fly a Boeing 757, trim it and fly it at full throttle into the Pentagon, basically flying at ground level and only causing a 10 foot hole causing damage 40 feet deep into the building, where the 180 foot long fuselage with 120 foot wingspan were squeezed into the 10 foot hole 40 feet deep, which is interestingly on the first floor, which is impossible for ground clearance purposes with two Fan engines Rolls Royce RB211 whose diameter each is around 6 feet, located about 20 feet away from the fuselage centerline, which leave the rest of the 20 feet diameter fuselage at least 27 feet above ground level, assuming that the Cessna 172 pilot is skillful enough to fly that low across the parking lot, without knocking off any of the lamp posts, all this is stuff is impossible physically and only belongs in some B rated movies.

One account I read mentioned that the "757" hit the ground before impact causing the wings to fold. This makes more sense, because a cruise missile is powered by a jet engine, and if that cruise missile is painted with the same livery as American Airline and its wings are folded, then when lauched, the wings unfold and get locked in the deployed position, but if it hits the ground before impact, this impact with the ground might have unlocked the wings causing then to fold up again and allowing the cruise missile to penetrate the building causing only a 10 foot hole with a depth of 40 feet through the second ring, which makes more sense than claiming that something the size of a "757" went through the building then vaporized and vanished.

You know, each one of those engines dangling on each wing weighs around 15,000 lbs of solid metal, which would have caused tremendous damage on both sides of the point of impact of the nose of the airplane. Besides, the nose of an airliner is very flimsy structurally since it is mostly made out of composite material, it is not like a penetrating war head like the ones used to bust bunkers, and again having JP-4 which doesn't ignite that easily and has relatively lower heating value "BTU", then it is impossible to claim that the intensity of the ensuing heat vaporized the airplane wreckage.

We have seen so many pictures of airplane wreckage and crash sites, never ever any crashed airplane vaporised in thin air. One good example was an American Airline 757 that flew into a solid mountain on approach to some airport in Colombia South AMerica, if my memory serves me it was called Cali, in 1994-95 time frame, and the airplane wreckage did not vaporize though there was plenty of oxygen around to complete the burn-off of the whole airplane as it was claimed it happened with all the airplanes involved in 9/11.

As John Kaminski said, this Ben Laden, was accused from the start without having anything from him at the time, like a statement or one of those conveniently stumbled upon video tapes or anything, which is unusual for any terrorist organization which promptly issues gloating statements claiming responsibility for their actions. As a matter of fact quiet a bit of time passed by where there were conjectures about who did 9/11, was it the Japanese Red Army which harbors tremendous hatred to the US, or was it a group of Serbians doing this 9/11 in reprisal for the bombing of Serbia by the US, or some of the home grown domestic terrorist organizations like the one that was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, nobody really knew for a while until the media came up with this Ben Laden, who really lacks the sophistication let alone the means and organizational skills to carry out such a meticulously well planned and executed operation that only a sovereign nation has the capability to carry it out, not a bunch of amateur warriors as we are led to believe.

Besides, the fact that the standard operating procedures in dealing with a hi-jacking in progress, were not followed by the Air Traffic History nor NORAD and the "stay down" order, all of that could not have been done by Ben Laden. Launching interceptors from bases where it will be impossible to intercept the hi-jacked airplanes, is also something that Ben Laden couldn't have done. All this point the finger at some insiders who helped 9/11 take place in the dramatical Hollywood fashion as we saw it unfold on tv.

Ironically, the name of the guy allegedly flying the first airplane into the Northern tower, Mohamed Atta, came up based on finding his passport a couple of blocks away from the scene. How can anyone believe that this guy who supposedly was going on a domestic flight, carried his passport with him, which is not needed, but even if we assume he had his passport on him as an ID, is it possible that on his way into the building, with his hands full flying a large jetliner, he opened the airplane window to throw away his passport, or do we believe that the "alleged intense heat" from burning Kerosene JP-4 fuel which allegedly burnt everything and melted the steel building, which scientifically it can not do even in a lab, but all of this intense heat which melted bodies and everything else, left Mohamed Atta's passport intact to luckily lead the FBI to the identity of the guy flying the Boeing 767 with such accuracy, though he only allegedly has rudder and stick experience in a Cessna 172. Doesn't that sound familiar with the pristine bullet, with no scratches or signs of deformations after being through flesh and bones, found on the gurney next to JFK's dead body. The pristine bullet which allegedly hit JFK in the back of his neck, went down, then took a right turn, then flew up, then flew horizontally through John Connelly's shoulder (Governor of Texas sitting in front of JFK) then down through Connely's wrist then turned up next to JFK's dead body without any signs of deformation for being through flesh and bones !!!

It doesn't add up and unfortunately the 9/11 Commission is a side show aimed at blaming the whole thing on intelligence failure, hence nobody is really responsible nor accountable.

There is no way that any average citizen can find the smoking gun, all we can do is analyse the information that we get and sort it out and come up with a sensible explanation.

In my opinion, Ben Laden, like our other Middle Eastern agents which we deliberately villify in our media to give them credibility with the Middle Eastern folks, and he is playing the role that was planned for him, and even many of his tapes aim primarily at shoring up the sagging fabricated stories of the Administration which does not get any credibility domestically or overseas.

Ben Laden's family has a lot of business dealings with the Bush family, and there were stories about the only flight out of the US taking some members of the Ben Laden family out of the US, on the day following 9/11 when there was a complete ban of any non-military flights in or out of the US. I think that Ben Laden, like Saddam who was also our agent until he wasn't needed anymore. He is used to scare off the Saudi Royal family and to blackmail them in making concessions as we need. I expect that when the time is right, probably around the November elections, Ben Laden's handler will set him up to be killed to get some mileage out of it so that Bush can secure a second term in the White House. But my second prediction is that Bush has become a liability to his backers who got as much mileage from him, and they need somebody else, John Kerry who already indicated that his policy in Iraq won't be much different, to continue their plans in the Middle East, and that's why they are releasing some damaging pictures about torturing and pretty soon a few damaging books or tv documentaries will be made to put Bush in bad light, thereby setting him to lose his popularity, even with the wide segment of uneducated gullibles.

Time will tell....


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John Kaminski
As 9/11 debunkers drift, controversial theory lingers
Sat May 1, 2004 15:26