JB Campbell
RE: OKC BOMBING & JOHN DOE #2
Fri Apr 15, 2005 16:29
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Subject: Re: FBI AGENT James R. Finchley A/K/A "John Doe Number Two"
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: JB Campbell jb_campbell@yahoo.com
To: apfn@apfn.org


Sorry - I thought you already knew who you were describing.

A guy named "Will White Williams" appeared on the scene in '92 (as far as I knew) as William Pierce's deputy and roving "ambassador." Pierce, a Ph.D. and former professor of engineering, ran the National Alliance. He was also the author, supposedly, of The Turner Diaries and Hunter, and the editor of the Vanguard magazine. "Williams" was advertised by Pierce as a former Green Beret and all-around genius. Eventually, a White racialist comic book for young people was created by National Alliance, the title of which was "White Will." The character looked like "Williams" and was based on him allegedly.

Shortly after his appearance he was attacked in print by Harold Covington, author of The March Up-country, a pessimistic but accurate view of America's future. Covington accused "Williams" of being a fed and a degenerate. He seemed to know a lot about "Wiliams," but his charges were suspected of being overblown and paranoid.

In late '93, "Williams" visited me and my then wife and stayed with us for a couple of days, as a representative of Pierce. I had written a book which kick-started the militia movement and Pierce was eager for me to join with him - with him as the boss. "Williams" turned out to be a very unpleasant character, foul-mouthed and an cartoonish form of "racist hater." Extremely provocative, he talked about killing Jews and others in front of my wife. He knew that I was a friend of Louis Beam and asked if I would introduce him over the phone, which I did.

He bemoaned the attacks on him by Harold Covington and showed me his Special Forces and US Army ID, which looked authentic, along with a photo of him in the uniform of the Green Beret with his rank of captain. Photo apparently genuine but no name tag. WWW was slim, blond and athletic. He said he'd like to kill Covington for his attacks. It was really all he talked about during his visit, how much he'd like to kill him.

We went to a meeting of the National Alliance - his own organization - which he deliberately wrecked with boorish and ugly behavior. That day I called Pierce in W. Virginia and told him that "Williams" was a very unpleasant and destructive character and why would he have him as a representative? Pierce was vague and apologetic. I said that I could not be associated with such a person and to forget me as an associate. Pierce admitted that WWW had destroyed similar meetings in San Francisco and Las Vegas after the LA one I attended.

So I forgot about it until a few months after OKC, when Covington launched a new attack on WWW, identifying him as "JD2" and the real demo man of the Murrah Bldg. His reasoning was very persuasive. WWW quickly sued him for defamation and got the default judgment described when Covington failed to show for the hearing.

"Williams" and Pierce bought the North Carolina property of the "Church of the Creator" after Ben Klassen committed suicide. Covington had accused Klassen of being a pedophile and homosexual. So, it appeared that Pierce could not control his own business partner.

Pierce also obtained a Russian wife and I guess I recall "Williams" telling me he had one, too.

So, this is who Finchley was portraying for all those years. He was so destructive that it's a miracle he learned anything, but perhaps that was his true mission - to destroy and create hatred, confusion and paralysis in the movement. In that, he was successful. But Covington was right on in his accusations.

JBC
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APFN wrote:

Re: AKA: "Will White Williams" of the National Alliance.
Complete with US Army Special Forces fake ID.

You want to give us more detailes or just leave us hanging out their???


p.s. What ever happened to.... (Kingman contact) ??

P.S.S. .... Do you know anything about "What Happened to Quig"??

JB Campbell wrote:

 AKA: "Will White Williams" of the National Alliance. Complete with US Army Special Forces fake ID.

 APFN wrote:

 Associated Press
 FBI AGENT James R. Finchley A/K/A "John Doe Number Two"
 Thu Apr 14, 2005 16:44
 http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=80973;title=APFN

 FBI Agent Penetrated Into The Heart of Darkness
 5.11 a.m. ET (9: 11 GMT) June 5, 1999
 By Wendy Nakamura, Associated Press

 WASHINGTON DC (AP) - For almost fourteen years, he lived in a world of hatred, bigotry, and violence.

 He attended Klan rallies and meetings of buttoned-down intellectual racists in business suits in the most upmarket hotels. He met and hosted Holocaust deniers like German- Canadian Ernst Zundel and British author David Irving. He was there at cross-burnings and street marches, waving a picket sign or a Confederate battle flag and always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups, making contacts with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists the world over. He infiltrated the inner councils of almost every top hate group in the United States and even in Europe. He even filed a libel suit against another White supremacist who claimed he was an FBI informant.

 But he was.

 Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran and "one of the best and bravest men ever to graduate out of Quantico" according to a former instructor at the world-famous FBI academy who knew him and trained him, came in from the cold at last, after successfully carrying out the longest-running deep-cover infiltration of any criminal or terrorist underworld in the history of American law enforcement.

 Finchley's fourteen years in the White racist underground produced only a handful of actual prosecutions, but "that wasn't his primary mission," according to the former director of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico, Kenneth M. Lanning. "He was there to listen and learn, and the wealth of information he obtained for us is beyond price."

 "It is not too much to say that we now know virtually everything there is to know about organized race hatred in this country. These guys [White supremacist activists and leaders] couldn't go to the can without us knowing about it," Lanning said.

 FBI Director Louis Freeh was not available for comment, but U. S. Attorney General Janet Reno told a reporter, "We usually do not make any public statement on covert operations of this nature until all criminal cases associated with an investigation have been brought to a conclusion, but I will say that Special Agent Finchley displayed uncommon courage, resourcefulness, and initiative in a very complex and often dangerous situation."

 Finchley's cover was so deep he is reported to have actually married one woman who was involved in a White supremacist group he wanted to penetrate. On that occasion he went to St. Petersburg, Russia to meet and bring to America a Russian woman who was to be the "mail order bride" of a nationally known White supremacist leader who was banned from entering the country because of his views.

 Finchley was so taken with the woman that he persuaded her to marry him instead, allegedly in order to keep her out of the clutches of the racist leader. Soon afterwards he and his Russian wife amicably divorced and Agent Finchley arranged for her to get a green card and relocate to Florida.

 Justice Department sources are close-mouthed about many of the details of Finchley's fourteen-year odyssey into the murky underworld of racism and hate. "There are still some loose ends to be tied up, and once this gets out there are going to be some very angry White supremacists out there," said a spokesman for the Department. The source refused to say whether Agent Finchley had been moved into the Witness Protection Program or what measures were being taken to prevent retaliation by Finchley's former comrades in the racist movement.

 Possibly the most bizarre event of Finchley's long- running undercover operation was when he was accused of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number Two" by the editor of a racist newsletter who had long suspected Finchley of being a Federal agent. Finchley took an absolutely unprecedented step: he sued the editor for libel and obtained a 110,000 default judgment when the defendant didn't show up in court to try the case.

 "I don't know if he's been successful in collecting any of the money the judge awarded him," said Lanning.

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 Zundelsite ZGram - June 13, 1999
 ... Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran
 ... of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number ...
 http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1999/zg9906/990613.html


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