Re: [OKC BOMBING] FBI acted slowly in tip

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Re: [OKC BOMBING] FBI acted slowly in tip
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Subject: Re: [OKC BOMBING] FBI acted slowly in tip on Nichols, bomb cache
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:34:09 -0400
From: brunohapski@tampabay.rr.com 
To: apfn@apfn.org

American Heritage
Patriotism (and what to consider) 101

Intro- These few lines are for patriots who lack experience. It’s for those yellow at the dupa and wet behind their ears. It’s an actual history lesson with questions. The addendum, at the bottom, might be considered, by some, to be about a secret agent , an anti-majority gun for hire, a low life, seeking profit-gain. To others, the entity is not despicable; he’s about cooperation with chosen progressiveness. It really provides essentials about changing times and a need for diplomacy.
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About twenty years ago –in the mid 1980s- one was invited by a Mr. Robert Miles, an American patriot, to speak about Eastern European anti-Communists. Bob Miles, was a fascinating fellow. He was a EuroAm nationalist. One of his passions was fighting for free speech and free association. He had about 350 followers and would sporadically have gatherings at his farm.

One subscribed to his magazine and for two months he begged one to lecture at his Michigan facility. According to Bob, one’s first-hand Warsavian knowledge would be more than educational; and (2) it would be rewarding for the doubting Thomas. Before approaching Mr. Bob’s home, one stopped at a nearby restaurant. At a table, close by, it was overhead -and I kid you not- some real anti-majority trash talk (use your imagination here).

Low and behold, when arriving at the lecture, it appeared that eyes were deceived. The auto of the above discussed anti-majority scum, was prominently parked near the front of Bob’s barn. This caused one to not only mitigate 80% of one’s lecture; it reduced one’s talk by 75%. One was so infuriated that one couldn’t control himself. Although one was using a nom de plume (Michael the Archangel), one OPENLY told all speakers that one feared members in the audience. No fingers were pointed for fear of retribution.

Later, one moved his car away from all others and told Miles what one knew. His reply was they’re everywhere. There’s nothing anyone can do about it.

To the pro-majority, Bob Miles was a saint. Bob was known as “The Man of the Mountain.” He was also a former French Foreign Legion hero. Miles resided a long distant from any major city. A bold fellow, he often gave interviews about his pro-EuroAm perspective to Detroit newspapers. With cut and paste, media often distorted his comments.

As for diplomacy, Bob thought it was fundamentally unnecessary. You see, he lived in an period when La CessPool Grande had less than half the Pearls she possesses today. In all probability, had Miles been active during this era, he’d be sitting in an EZ environment. His rooms would be similar to that of contemporary hero Matt Hale.

Some might say that, more than ever, the majority should never underestimate the nemesis of mankind. Bob was part of yesterday. This is today.

This might be a different age. Don’t think that free discussion and the dissemination of ideas is part of your American heritage. Ask yourself why millions went to the Soviet gulag. Inquire if they could have retained their views and physical bodies by traveling more effective roads.

LEARN from others. Never underestimate the skills of the anti-commies under Soviet domination. Realize that their tools were molded by vast experience. For example, tack hammers and saws utilized by oppressed satellite nations, under chosen colonization, consisted of numerous codes (cosmopolitan, etc.). If you don’t take this message to heart, your family, wife, children, mother and father could pay for something that would break them. The law is a farce, legality is a sham and WACO is not a movie.

Suggestions: Consider disclaimers, use double talk more than occasionally. Learn to write in the third person. Buy yourself a few extra computers. Be able to prove that much of what is on your hard drives did not derive from your pen. Never forget that allies not only increase the potential for peace and brotherhood; friends are necessary in the fight against pure evil. Lastly, put nearly all economic assets into the name of a trusted loved one.

If you have any doubts about the above, think of the Oklahoma frame up, innocent deaths/incarcerations and the charakter of the item below. It might be relevant to any John Does and their Heart of Darkness. The secret agent is more than merely a gun for hire, a low life, seeking profit-gain…

Nuff.

bruno
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Associated Press
FBI AGENT James R. Finchley A/K/A "John Doe Number Two"
Thu Apr 14, 2005 16:44

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_coverup.htm

FBI Agent Penetrated Into The Heart of Darkness
5.11 a.m. ET (9: 11 GMT) June 5, 1999
By Wendy Nakamura, Associated Press

WASHINGTON DC (AP) - For almost fourteen years, he lived in a world of hatred, bigotry, and violence.

He attended Klan rallies and meetings of buttoned-down intellectual racists in business suits in the most upmarket hotels. He met and hosted Holocaust deniers like German- Canadian Ernst Zundel and British author David Irving. He was there at cross-burnings and street marches, waving a picket sign or a Confederate battle flag and always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups, making contacts with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists the world over. He infiltrated the inner councils of almost every top hate group in the United States and even in Europe. He even filed a libel suit against another White supremacist who claimed he was an FBI informant.

But he was.

Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran and "one of the best and bravest men ever to graduate out of Quantico" according to a former instructor at the world-famous FBI academy who knew him and trained him, came in from the cold at last, after successfully carrying out the longest-running deep-cover infiltration of any criminal or terrorist underworld in the history of American law enforcement.

Finchley's fourteen years in the White racist underground produced only a handful of actual prosecutions, but "that wasn't his primary mission," according to the former director of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico, Kenneth M. Lanning. "He was there to listen and learn, and the wealth of information he obtained for us is beyond price."

"It is not too much to say that we now know virtually everything there is to know about organized race hatred in this country. These guys [White supremacist activists and leaders] couldn't go to the can without us knowing about it," Lanning said.

FBI Director Louis Freeh was not available for comment, but U. S. Attorney General Janet Reno told a reporter, "We usually do not make any public statement on covert operations of this nature until all criminal cases associated with an investigation have been brought to a conclusion, but I will say that Special Agent Finchley displayed uncommon courage, resourcefulness, and initiative in a very complex and often dangerous situation."

Finchley's cover was so deep he is reported to have actually married one woman who was involved in a White supremacist group he wanted to penetrate. On that occasion he went to St. Petersburg, Russia to meet and bring to America a Russian woman who was to be the "mail order bride" of a nationally known White supremacist leader who was banned from entering the country because of his views.

Finchley was so taken with the woman that he persuaded her to marry him instead, allegedly in order to keep her out of the clutches of the racist leader. Soon afterwards he and his Russian wife amicably divorced and Agent Finchley arranged for her to get a green card and relocate to Florida.

Justice Department sources are close-mouthed about many of the details of Finchley's fourteen-year odyssey into the murky underworld of racism and hate. "There are still some loose ends to be tied up, and once this gets out there are going to be some very angry White supremacists out there," said a spokesman for the Department. The source refused to say whether Agent Finchley had been moved into the Witness Protection Program or what measures were being taken to prevent retaliation by Finchley's former comrades in the racist movement.

Possibly the most bizarre event of Finchley's long- running undercover operation was when he was accused of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number Two" by the editor of a racist newsletter who had long suspected Finchley of being a Federal agent. Finchley took an absolutely unprecedented step: he sued the editor for libel and obtained a 110,000 default judgment when the defendant didn't show up in court to try the case.

"I don't know if he's been successful in collecting any of the money the judge awarded him," said Lanning.


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Mark Sherman
[OKC BOMBING] FBI acted slowly in tip on Nichols, bomb cache
Sat Apr 16, 2005 18:08
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Friday, April 15, 2005

FBI acted slowly in tip on Nichols, bomb cache
http://www.detnews.com/2005/nation/0504/16/A07-151011.htm

Explosives were found in the former home of McVeigh cohort; possible anniversary attack claimed.

By Mark Sherman / Associated Press

Terry Nichols leaves court in June 2004. The FBI initially dismissed a fellow inmate's tip that explosives were hidden in the Lapeer native's former home in Kansas. Who put them there and why is unknown.

WASHINGTON -- The FBI initially dismissed a tip that convicted bomber Terry Nichols had hidden explosives and they might be used for an attack this month coinciding with the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.


Terry Nichols leaves court in June 2004. The FBI initially dismissed a fellow inmate's tip that explosives were hidden in the Lapeer native's former home in Kansas. Who put them there and why is unknown.

While the FBI has found no evidence supporting the idea that an attack is in the works for Tuesday's 10th anniversary, the information that explosives had been hidden in Nichols' former home in Herington, Kan., turned out to be true.

The tip came from imprisoned mobster Gregory Scarpa Jr., 53, a law enforcement official said this week. Scarpa is an inmate in the same maximum-security federal prison in Florence, Colo., where Nichols is serving life sentences for his role in the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that killed 168 people. Timothy McVeigh was convicted of federal conspiracy and murder charges in the bombing and executed in 2001.

Scarpa learned about the explosives from Nichols, mainly through notes passed between them, said Stephen Dresch, a Michigan man who is Scarpa's informal advocate.

Dresch gave the information to the FBI in early March. But FBI agents did not search the vacant house until March 31. The bureau did not act more quickly because Scarpa failed a lie detector test.

The FBI lab is examining the materials for fingerprints and other clues that might show where the explosives originated and who may have had them before they got into Nichols' home.

Scarpa, a member of the Colombo organized crime family who is serving 50-plus years on drug trafficking, conspiracy and racketeering convictions, first communicated information about the explosives March 1, then provided more details on March 10 and 11, Dresch said in letters sent to the staffs of two members of Congress and to the FBI's Detroit office. Nichols is a Lapeer, Mich., native. Scarpa revealed the location of the house March 11, Dresch said.

Details about explosives

The first letter said Scarpa learned from another prisoner, assumed by Dresch to be Nichols, "the location of a bomb on U.S. soil." The second described two rock piles in the crawl space beneath Nichols' former home. Under one, it said, were cardboard boxes wrapped in plastic. Those details match what the FBI said it found.

Aides to Reps. William Delahunt, D-Mass., and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., acknowledged receiving the letters by fax. Delahunt's office received the letter March 1 or 2 and forwarded it to the FBI, said Steve Schwadron, the lawmaker's chief of staff. The letter to Rohrabacher was not read until after the FBI search had been done, said Rohrabacher spokeswoman Rebecca Rudman.

The FBI refused to comment on the delay.

The bureau has faced harsh post-September 11, criticism accusing it of failing to adequately investigate tips and intelligence.

Delahunt has chided the FBI for its dealings with informants, while Rohrabacher is considering requesting a hearing on the bureau's handling of the Oklahoma City investigation.

"I'm more concerned that the FBI didn't do a thorough job investigating this location 10 years ago than I am about how long it took to follow through on an informant's tip," Rohrabacher said.

Dresch, a Michigan economist, principal owner of Forensic Intelligence International and former state lawmaker, speculated that the FBI didn't act more quickly because Scarpa has a long, contentious history with federal authorities.

Terrorism link

Valerie Caproni, now the FBI general counsel, was a prosecutor in Scarpa's 1998 trial in Brooklyn, N.Y. At the time, Scarpa testified he spied for the FBI on four suspects in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, including convicted mastermind Ramzi Yousef, while they were jailed together in Manhattan.

Scarpa said he passed on to the FBI plans that said associates of the four men would kill a prosecutor in one of Yousef's trials and attack a federal judge he declined to name as well as unspecified "government installations."

Caproni and U.S. District Judge Reena Raggi scoffed at Scarpa's claims, which the judge called insignificant at best and more likely "part of a scam."

Freelance journalist Peter Lance has argued in his recent book, "Cover Up," that Scarpa's information was accurate and included tips that could have led the FBI to Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle, long before the Sept. 11 attacks Mohammed purportedly helped plan.
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Did Oklahoma City Bombers Have Help?
Fox News Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:14 PM PDT
Some argue FBI ignored clues in Oklahoma City bomb investigation. Peter Langan speaks exclusively to FOX News.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153635,00.html
 
One month after the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing (search) that killed 168 people, authorities demolished what was left of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building (search).

Officials said the implosion was a necessary part of the psychological recovery for the citizens of Oklahoma City. But critics question the FBI's tactics and argue the building came down too soon and the implosion is one piece of a government cover-up.

Survivor VZ Lawton remembers the events after the attack.

"I was in my office at my desk signing papers and all of a sudden the building began to shake," said Lawton. "The lights went out, debris started falling and then something hit me on the head and knocked me out before the truck bomb ever went off."

Lawton and some others believe Timothy McVeigh (se

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