Kjell Roald Bjøru "Operation 9-11: Rendezvous Points", Thu Apr 8, 2004 14:00 63.228.145.202 "Operation 9-11: Rendezvous Points" http://www.the-movement.com/air%20operation/journeyresponses.htm Dear Frank Lewi I just read your article "Operation 9-11: Rendezvous Points", the link was at WRH-site. I am living in Finland and I have my own 9/11 site at http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/ It is in Finnish lanquage so you don't understand a word, but you can see what kind of links I have. I can assure you, here in Finland nobody has ever heard anything about these kind of things! About your article. It is of extremely interesting point of view. Was 9/11 loosely based on the operation Northwoods plan? Why not? I had this idea to either translate the whole thing or quote something from your article combined with my own text (full gredit to you and the link) and put it at my site. Would that be OK? You write also about the terrorism in Northern Ireland and in Palestine. I have another subject that I am closely watching. That is the war in Chechnya. As I see it, there are three major "rogue states" in the world (somewhat smaller a lot more) that are using faketerrorism for their own purposes. They are USA, Russia and Israel. Just remember the mysterious series of bombings of apartment blocks of flats in Moskow (just like a miniature-9/11) in 1999. Chechens were accused and a "small victorious war" was started. And after that: a provocation after another together with ruthles disinformation campaigns. This all of coarce is going on still today. I have my Chechnya-site at: http://www.kolumbus.fi/suomi-tshetshenia-seura/ (Finland-Chechnya-Association) So this kind of things happen also in Russia. When we talk about the Soviet-Afghan war, it is easy to remember only the CIA's involvement. But the situation was more complicated. The mujahideen groups were heavily infiltrated by the KGB. Propably most of the Stingers were given to Russian proxy Hekmatjar who sold them to Iran etc. Osama himself has lots in common with the Russians, not to forget his armsdealer Viktor Bout (KGB-officer). No simple truths here. About the 9/11 research in general. For a long time now, nothing new has popped out. And it seems that it is not even possible to find any solid proof by using the internet. What would be needed is footwork, interviewing different people etc, kind of work mr Hopsicker has been doing, but there aren't many such people in States? A second thing that would be needed are statements by qualified engineers and experts about various aspects, about the technical side, the physics. No hope on that one, because nobody is interested about the subject, engineers are conservatives, nobody is willing to speak with their own names etc. The reason that I made my 9/11 site is that, although I don't expect to have much readers or any gredit from it, I at least want to state to the Finnish people, that there are always some people that cannot be fooled, while all the others accept to live in the collective lie. Best wishes Hannu Yli-Karjanmaa Helsinki, Finland Frank: Wow...that's some sinister stuff you've unearthed...I've read on a site that Mark Bingham,one of the "heroes" of Flight 93,called his mom and is to have said: "Mom? This is Mark Bingham..." Funny way to address your mom,eh? He then tells her that the plane's been hijacked,and when she asks him something he said,"You believe me,don't you?" Pretty weird...anyway,keep up the good work.I 've heard of Op.Northwoods and all the other "ops" the US has engaged in and I say this administration's complicit in the attacks up to their hairlines. Dear FBI: Can I PLEASE view the footage of the Pentagon impact?? Mark I just read your report makes sense to me, I'm confused about one thing, on Sept. 11 around 8:30 I was watching the news on CNN and the first tower was smoking that would be 8:30 CST we live in Louisiana. Before the next plane hit there was a white helicopter circling the two towers I told my husband look at that helicopter what do you suppose it's doing, my husband said probably taking pictures or checking what is smoking. Since that day, we have seen these burning bildings and watching them going straight down and figured it was one of those "Wag the Dog" incident we have never seen this white helicopter again. Do you have any information on the helicopter, I know we saw it. Will appreciate any information. W. DeSpain It seems to me that one of the easiest ways to verify some of these different theories would be to buy satellite photos from some govt. These satellites are supposed to be able to read a newspaper on the ground so they should be able to produce photos of planes and identifying marks. I remember a story about a reporter for a Florida newspaper who did something like this when Bush the First claimed that Iraqi troops were lined up along the Kuwaiti border for an attack. She bought satellite photos from the Russians and they showed no such massing of troops. Surely, given the number of countries with satellites orbiting the earth, there are any number who must have photos of what was in the air and what was landing at the time of the attacks. I don't know what it would cost or how to go about contacting govts. about this, but I think that would definitely confirm or destroy your theory. Well thought analysis...keep it up. I figured the people on Flight 77 like Barbara Olson are all in underground bunkers waiting for FEMA to put us all away. The people on that flight were mostly defense industry wonks. Frank, My name is Don McKnight and I've been following and researching the events of 911. I too believe that you are on to something. One thing I do know and I would bet my house on it; there were no Arabs on those planes. Whenever a crime is committed the first thing that must take place is an investigation. The Bush cabal is preventing this from happening which indicates guilt in some way. After a crime is committed the first thing that must be approached is who gained from the crime. The Arabs sure didn't. I want to address your premise which is very logical and is close to my understanding of how they committed this despicable crime. Let me just put forth my premise. The two planes that hit the WTC was substitute in flight by two global hawk controlled drones. Converted with this technology to appear to look like 767's. The passengers were probably told of an emergency and landed at a nearby military base. None of the planes were full, in fact they all where only maybe a third full. Planes flying out of those airports and at that time of day is almost always full. These passengers being told of an dire emergency were than loaded onto Flight 93 and that flight was subsequently either shot down or detonated over PA. There was a site on Flight 93 which was shut down (I wonder why?) which interviewed witnesses seeing a military plane nearby. Another very important omission that most people seem to forget is flight recorders do not get damaged under the most severe crash conditions. They were built to survive any crash under any condition. Where are they? I also believe that a missile hit the Pentagon. I will be looking forward for more to come. Keep up the good work Sounds like you are making progress. Don't forget that none of the alleged hijackers showed up on the passenger list, and that they are also not filmed as having been in the alleged hijack airports. Portland, Maine (Atta and Alomari) doesn't count, and there are two time stamps on that famous photo. Keep up the good work. Hi Frank,Yes all plausible.The official story is a Fairy Tale Can the flight's Victim's family's be contacted?There has to be some people willing to come forward.Someone need's to follow up on all these details,someone with deep pockets needs to expose this fraud.Every individual's family need's to be contacted in person.Bob in Nevada Frank I read your page on WRH. The attachment was something I wrote over a year ago when I had a cold and a bit of time to kill. I'm a COMPLETE amateur in Australia. The 911 event occurred here at our time about 23.30 Hrs I was woken by a call from my Mother at 03.00 Hrs and sat up all night and much of the next day. I never for even one moment believed that the Planes alone brought down the WTC towers and began 'smelling a rat' about 6 Hours into the event, that was around 9am local time. I always felt remote control was used in dummy planes. The question of HOW the Pilots were persuaded to co-operate puzzled me because I do not and never did believe that 19 Arabs were ever in any of the 'real' Planes. I still think my theory in the attachment is the most plausible way in which the 911 plotters gained control over the planes, because it's so simple! See yourself I'd be pleased to hear what you think Bernie Busch, AKA 'Conan Doyle' contributions/SHERLOCK HOLMES' 911THEORY.htm Dear Frank: I just read your article at http://www.the-movement.com/air%20operation/Journey.htm and was intrigued by the link you made between flights 175 and 11 and Stewart International. Have you seen the website at http://bcornet.homestead.com/files/landings/landing.htm? It details the observations two researchers made of "anomalous" aircraft near Stewart back in 1997. The authors claim to have seen unusually shaped aircraft (one apparently didn't have a fusilage, for example, though another was "similar to that of a Boeing 727 or DC-9") which followed inexplicable flight plans at altitudes below FAA regulations and made strange maneuvers. Although the authors come to an esoteric/paranormal conclusion, if one considers these flights in the light of your research and the vicinity in which they were observed, could they perhaps have been test flights or even "practice runs" of modified, remote controlled or drone military aircraft? -- Study the past if you would define the future. Frank, I saw your report on www.whatreallyhappened.com. A couple of corrections: Maguire AFB is not located in Trenton, NJ, but adjacent to Ft Dix in the Pine Barrens, about thirty-five to forty miles SE of Trenton. There is an airport (Mercer County) just outside of Trenton to the north that can accomodate aircraft, but not 757's. The flight path over Trenton is a major one, and it is not unusual at all to see dozens of planes flying that path. Most nights near September of 2001 you could watch at least four or five planes lines up one after another in a flight path to Newark virtually all night. Furthermore Trenton is NOT 90 miles from NY but about 50. Nothing big, but I'm sure you'd prefer accuracy to approximation. Regards- From South Africa, we say keep asking questions, keep investigating, follow up all leads, however trivial they seem. Many of us around the world suspect 9-11 was an inside job. A highly qualified pilot (with both military and commercial jet training) who I spoke to here in South Africa on the morning of September 10 - a pilot who often flies into America - said quietly but categorically: 'make no mistake, this was a high precision military exercise of the type that only the money and expertise of sections of the US Defence Force could pull off'. - Keep going and good luck. Margo - Johannesburg, South Africa. Hi I don't see why they would have done that if it was to get rid of the passengers later, and murdering them is the only long term solution. So remain the possibility that the passengers are party in the operation and are now enjoying life under the coconut trees somewhere... I don't think this is possible with so many people : I mean, unless you put them on an island without external world communication or send them on a lunar base, one of them will speak. Regards JPD At 10:37 07/08/2003 -0700, APFN wrote: > >What are your thoughts on the passengers - still alive somewhere? > > I think Ted Olson holds the key to that question... > > For me, NO! they are not alive, "THEY" can not risk the possibility of a Leak. > > But anything is possible. > > Thanks for all your work.... I wake up in shock everyday. > > Ken Vardon - apfn@apfn.org Dear Frank, I read your article, Operation 9-11: Rendezvous Points and want you to know I think you have done a nice job trying to figure out what might have really happened on 9/11. There is no doubt in my mind that the official story being promulgated by the complicit media whores is nothing more than a pathetic LIE moonlighting as a muslim conspiracy theory. Keep up the fine work and know there are others thinking just like you are. "The real advantage which truth has, consists in this, that when an opinion is true, it may be extinguished once, twice, or many times, but in the course of ages there will generally be found persons to rediscover it, until some one of its reappearances falls on a time when from favorable circumstances it escapes persecution until it has made such head as to withstand all subsequent attempts to suppress it." --John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (1859) The honest man must be a perpetual renegade, the life of an honest man a perpetual infidelity. For the man who wishes to remain faithful to truth must make himself perpetually unfaithful to all the continual, successive, indefatigable renascent errors. -- Charles Peguy Sincerely, Dominic Lack of Seismic Signal may Be the Best Clue to Flight 77 from: Cheryl Seal Hi, In Part 4 of Smoking Gun: the 9/11 Evidence that may Hang G. W. Bush", I pointed out that there was no detectable (above background seismic "noise") seismic signal from the Pentagon crash. There should have been SOME signal if an object with the mass of the full sized jet hit the Pentagon, and hit it so low to the ground as to constitute a "glancing", just off-vertical strike (as opposed to horizontal). I confirmed the lack of a signal with two seismologists (see letter exchange below). My first theory (as written in Smoking Gun) was that an explosive device was aboard flight 77 - of an advanced type that could all but vaporize the plane. Not only was the plane (according to my theory) remotely controlled from the ground, but the explosive device was triggered remotely. The device was tripped in the split second BEFORE the craft hit the Pentagon, thus vaporizing most of the evidence and leaving a diminished hole in the wall. The security video stills have shown that the plane that approached the wall was not a commercial jet-sized plane, but something much smaller. I think it is very interesting that Barbara Olson, who allegedly died in the crash just HAPPENED to have had a book due for release the very next week. This "coincidental setup" (her alleged "heroic" death JUST as her book comes out) helped boost her book sales dramatically, thereby greatly fattening the Olson bank account.. I would love to be in a position to trace the money trail from her book proceeds to Ted Olson's account and from there to....maybe some place in South America or the South Pacific? Can't you just see Babs (under an assumed name, of course) lounging on the beach on some unmapped island, waiting for Ted to join her at some future date, smugly sure she had helped pull off one of the biggest scams in history? Here's a link to Part 4 of Smoking Gun, with details about Flight 77 and the Pentagon: http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd060302.html Here's my interchange with USGS seismologists re: Flight 77: Keepin' the Faith, Cheryl > To Cheryl, > > In your "Smoking Gun 4" article, you speculate about the possibility that the Pentagon plane might have exploded before impact, based on the seismic signals. I have seen the forensic analyses of only the WTC collapse signals, and not the others, but from basic principles, please consider these differences: > > The WTC seismic signals were from the two collapses -- well-coupled, vertical sources of tremendous mass. The source of the seismic signals was not from the plane impacts or explosions -- mostly horizontal impacts that were well-damped 911 COVERUP PANEL TAKES A DIVE Jim Rarey, Thu Apr 8 14:25 Government Refuses to Produce Wiretaps Between Bush Aide and Joseph AF. Sadowski, Thu Apr 8 18:06
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