"Larry L. Lawson"
Military buying up all the civilian ammo -
Thu Mar 9, 2006 20:47
From: "Larry L. Lawson"
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: Military buying up all the civilian ammo - ultimate GUN CONTROL.
Well, we knew they had to do something or they were in deep doodoo since there are so many guns out there. Its a brilliant way to end gun ownership and a threat to their dictatorship.
Here is the link and the text. http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
Bulk Ammunition Shortages in USA
Bulk ammunition and MRE shortages have apparently arrived in the USA. We're advising you of this now, because we expect this will become become a huge story in coming months - one that the future predicting web bot project ( http://www.halfpasthuman.com ) has been alluding to for more than a year in a software "entity" called "encounter with scarcity" due to arrive in full force this summer.
Let me lay out the facts. I received the following email from a reader yesterday that reads as follows:
"The 7.62x39 ammo is all but dried up according to my firearms dealer.
And: .223 ammo has gone up in price dramatically according to the same dealer. He said that the ammo manufacturers are of course dedicated to the military. It is available but he said some of what he normally orders went up 14%. (more than his profit margin) He said that his December and January was the best Dec and Jan he has ever had. And those months are usually extremely slow!
He mentioned that prices on firearms have gone up allot after the shot show was over, but it doesn't seem to be stopping people from buying. He said, people are worried what is going to happen, here in this country.
Just thought I'd pass it along for your information, in case you need to pick up anything."
Because we have a fair bit of land out here in East Texas to defend from, among other things, wild pigs, coyotes, skunks, panthers, and such, we like to have a little ammo on hand. So I started checking around for 7.62 X 39 rounds for the SKS.
a.. At Cabelas ( http://www.cabelas.com ) I found when I tried to order 7.62 X 39 154 grain soft points in the 500 round bulks pack (Item IG-215187) they were on back order. So were the 1,000 round boxes. Also, the 7.62 X 39 hollow point rounds in quantity (500 and up) are back ordered.
b.. No problem, I thought - I'll just go to Cheaper Than Dirt ( http://www.cheaperthandirt.com ) and buy some there. Anything in quantity (and some special use) 7.62 has the "check status" warning - indicating back ordered.
c.. At Sportsman's Guide (http://www.sportsmansguide.com) I was able to find some sealed cans of 7.62 full metal jacket (FMJ), but when I tried to add it to my shopping cart, look at the lead times:
Being curious as heck about this, I called tech support for one of these stores and asked the obvious question: "What gives?" The answer was surprising. "Well, the military has been buying up all kinds of ammo - it's not just the 7.62 - it's other stuff too, like 9 millimeter pistol ammo in quantities. We get a few boxes in now and then, so you might want to call back every few days. But like I said, the military is buying everything they can get."
So I brought this up to Panama Bates (our resident retired SF/Ranger security chief). "Funny you would mention that...I haven't been able to find MRE's either." Bates, a retired soldier, usually has a stash of MRE's about (we have a few here and there, too).
I was surprised to hear about MRE's though, so I put in a quick call to Scotty at out Emergency Essentials ( http://www.beprepared.com , 1-800-999-1863) to find out if MRE's had in fact "gone missing." Turns out Scotty was out till this morning, but his staff advised me that yes, they are out of MRE's - and they also were kind enough to advise me that the ones that may still find on eBay could be old stock (be sure to get dates!).
On the other hand, Emergency Essentials operates their own freeze-dried operation, so they have good supplies of those (plus things like the 50-pound super pails of wheat, long term stored yeast, etc. that we use here). We'll try to let you know when Emergency Essentials gets MRE's back in stock. Remember, we advised you to buy MRE's and storage foods quite some time ago.
(You'd best order them YESTERDAY BEFORE ROADS ARE BLOCKED!!)
Now, here is what I've some to as a possible "bottom line."
1.. The military (and not just the US military, I was told) is indeed buying up huge amounts of ammunition. Not the kind of thing I would expect if the war in Iraq was going at all well. I read the ammo part of the story as "more war - bigger war - to come."
2.. The food purchases are also worrisome because it indicates to me that the current levels of military activity (or higher) are to be continued for some time.
Again, the web bot project has been predicting an "encounter with scarcity" this summer (along with two major international crisis to come, war in September and so forth). The question the pragmatic economist must ask today is whether this recently developed lack of availability of quantity ammunition (and it's not just 7.62, as you'll find if you do some serious research) and the lack of available current run MRE's is the leading edge of scarcities of other commodities yet to come.
Regrettably, given the track record of the future predictive software, we expect this will turn out to be the case. We might be picking up the odd extra roll of Charmin, bleach, and soap, too. While we're cognizant that such a report may be a bit unsettling - and might be blamed later for shortages we expect to see coming, the evidence is already on the table (at least in ammo and MRE's) that
scarcity may have started to arrive.
We report this story as a duty. The Second Amendment to the Constitution instructs us that: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: Military buying up all the civilian ammo - ultimate GUN CONTROL.
Well, we knew they had to do something or they were in deep doodoo since there are so many guns out there. Its a brilliant way to end gun ownership and a threat to their dictatorship.
Here is the link and the text. http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
Bulk Ammunition Shortages in USA
Bulk ammunition and MRE shortages have apparently arrived in the USA. We're advising you of this now, because we expect this will become become a huge story in coming months - one that the future predicting web bot project ( http://www.halfpasthuman.com ) has been alluding to for more than a year in a software "entity" called "encounter with scarcity" due to arrive in full force this summer.
Let me lay out the facts. I received the following email from a reader yesterday that reads as follows:
"The 7.62x39 ammo is all but dried up according to my firearms dealer.
And: .223 ammo has gone up in price dramatically according to the same dealer. He said that the ammo manufacturers are of course dedicated to the military. It is available but he said some of what he normally orders went up 14%. (more than his profit margin) He said that his December and January was the best Dec and Jan he has ever had. And those months are usually extremely slow!
He mentioned that prices on firearms have gone up allot after the shot show was over, but it doesn't seem to be stopping people from buying. He said, people are worried what is going to happen, here in this country.
Just thought I'd pass it along for your information, in case you need to pick up anything."
Because we have a fair bit of land out here in East Texas to defend from, among other things, wild pigs, coyotes, skunks, panthers, and such, we like to have a little ammo on hand. So I started checking around for 7.62 X 39 rounds for the SKS.
a.. At Cabelas ( http://www.cabelas.com ) I found when I tried to order 7.62 X 39 154 grain soft points in the 500 round bulks pack (Item IG-215187) they were on back order. So were the 1,000 round boxes. Also, the 7.62 X 39 hollow point rounds in quantity (500 and up) are back ordered.
b.. No problem, I thought - I'll just go to Cheaper Than Dirt ( http://www.cheaperthandirt.com ) and buy some there. Anything in quantity (and some special use) 7.62 has the "check status" warning - indicating back ordered.
c.. At Sportsman's Guide (http://www.sportsmansguide.com) I was able to find some sealed cans of 7.62 full metal jacket (FMJ), but when I tried to add it to my shopping cart, look at the lead times:
Being curious as heck about this, I called tech support for one of these stores and asked the obvious question: "What gives?" The answer was surprising. "Well, the military has been buying up all kinds of ammo - it's not just the 7.62 - it's other stuff too, like 9 millimeter pistol ammo in quantities. We get a few boxes in now and then, so you might want to call back every few days. But like I said, the military is buying everything they can get."
So I brought this up to Panama Bates (our resident retired SF/Ranger security chief). "Funny you would mention that...I haven't been able to find MRE's either." Bates, a retired soldier, usually has a stash of MRE's about (we have a few here and there, too).
I was surprised to hear about MRE's though, so I put in a quick call to Scotty at out Emergency Essentials ( http://www.beprepared.com , 1-800-999-1863) to find out if MRE's had in fact "gone missing." Turns out Scotty was out till this morning, but his staff advised me that yes, they are out of MRE's - and they also were kind enough to advise me that the ones that may still find on eBay could be old stock (be sure to get dates!).
On the other hand, Emergency Essentials operates their own freeze-dried operation, so they have good supplies of those (plus things like the 50-pound super pails of wheat, long term stored yeast, etc. that we use here). We'll try to let you know when Emergency Essentials gets MRE's back in stock. Remember, we advised you to buy MRE's and storage foods quite some time ago.
(You'd best order them YESTERDAY BEFORE ROADS ARE BLOCKED!!)
Now, here is what I've some to as a possible "bottom line."
1.. The military (and not just the US military, I was told) is indeed buying up huge amounts of ammunition. Not the kind of thing I would expect if the war in Iraq was going at all well. I read the ammo part of the story as "more war - bigger war - to come."
2.. The food purchases are also worrisome because it indicates to me that the current levels of military activity (or higher) are to be continued for some time.
Again, the web bot project has been predicting an "encounter with scarcity" this summer (along with two major international crisis to come, war in September and so forth). The question the pragmatic economist must ask today is whether this recently developed lack of availability of quantity ammunition (and it's not just 7.62, as you'll find if you do some serious research) and the lack of available current run MRE's is the leading edge of scarcities of other commodities yet to come.
Regrettably, given the track record of the future predictive software, we expect this will turn out to be the case. We might be picking up the odd extra roll of Charmin, bleach, and soap, too. While we're cognizant that such a report may be a bit unsettling - and might be blamed later for shortages we expect to see coming, the evidence is already on the table (at least in ammo and MRE's) that
scarcity may have started to arrive.
We report this story as a duty. The Second Amendment to the Constitution instructs us that: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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