Shortfall in Faith
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Shortfall in Faith
Tue Feb 17 20:11:07 2004
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Shortfall in Faith
By Tropic_USA
Tropic_USA@webtv.net

These following passages, in my eyes give total meaning to what is going in in the Catholic church, below you will see the verses with a little commentary in between followed by todays story on the Catholic Church Sex Scandal

1 Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

(IE: Doctrines of the trinity, Sunday Worship, Easter, Christmas, Not under the law, and other Catholic traditions, that were clearly borrowed from Paganism. Not only the catholic church does this apply to, but other apostate churches also but this article below, is about the Catholic church, so for this purpose I am referring to the Catholic Church at this point.)

1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

( I think this speaks for itself, speaking lies in hypocrisy, and because of that their judgement and discernment are skewed.
Reference: 2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.)

1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

(Catholic Priests are forbidden to marry, unlike every other religion on the planet. I believe this leads to sexual deviancy because they have no wife to have sex with and it is a natural thing for a human being to want to have sex and to be true to God you need to be married before it is LAWFUL to have sex. And they Abstain from Meats on Friday, now since I am not catholic, I do not know why they do this.)

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

(This says it all, these priests are looked upon as Godly people, people trust them with their children they think this man of GOD will never hurt my child, but in actuality they are perverts in discuise)

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

(those 3 verses above show that it is impossible for these priests to be Godly, when their fruits they manifest are Evil, all their works are evil then.)

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

(this is what is awaiting those pedophile priests, who truely know not the LAW or GOD, for their God is not the God of Israel, their god is another one. HaSatan, and they shall be cast in the lake of fire. I mean they can repent, but will they truely repent, that is up to them and GOD)

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

(this is so true, look now at the news article below, and you be the judge, any comments on this are welcome)

Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The survey, to be released February 27, found that children made more than 11,000 allegations of sexual abuse by priests. The 4,450 accused priests represent about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests who served during the 52 years covered by the study.

The report is based on a nationwide survey of church records, and was compiled by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice for the conference.

The bishops' conference commissioned the survey to get a better understanding of the scope of the crisis.

CNN reviewed a draft copy of the survey. Officials said it may be slightly changed before its release.

More than half of the accused priests had only one allegation against them. Nearly 25 percent, or 1,112 priests, had two or three allegations, and almost 13 percent, or 578 priests, had four to nine allegations, according to the draft report. Nearly 3 percent, or 133 of the priests, had 10 or more allegations.

The report said that 6,700 of the 11,000 allegations were investigated and substantiated, and another 1,000 were unsubstantiated. The remaining 3,300 were not investigated because the priests involved had died by the time the allegation was made.

The director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests said Monday that the survey's numbers are low.

"Bishops have tried to hide this for years, so there is no reason to believe all of a sudden they would change their ways," David Clohessy said. "The only prudent thing to do is to assume this is not the entire truth. This is a survey, not a report or investigation."

SNAP, founded in 1989, describes itself on its Web site as the nation's largest, oldest and most active support group for people victimized by religious authority figures.

The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a written statement calling the reports "a very sobering and important milestone."

"I have not seen the reports, and so I cannot comment on their substance," the statement from Bishop Wilton D. Gregory said. "But I want to reaffirm that the bishops requested these studies so that we could understand as fully as possible what caused this terrible occurrence in the life of our community to make sure that it never happens again.

"My heart goes out to all who have suffered, and I assure them especially that the bishops are committed to fully implementing the Dallas Charter and will continue to work with the Office of Child and Youth Protection and the National Review Board to reach out to victims and prevent such abuse from occurring in the future," Gregory said in a statement.

The Dallas Charter is a plan developed by the conference in 2002 to protect children from sex abuse by priests. The conference created the review board in 2002 and charged it with commissioning the abuse study.

The head of Voice of the Faithful, a Catholic group formed in response to the priest sex abuse scandal, says some important information is missing from the draft report.

"Although it counts the number of children who have been abused, the number of priests who have abused children, the total financial cost to the church, it does not chronicle the number of bishops who knowingly re-assigned priests who had abused children," said Steve Krueger.

"Without that kind of investigation, there can be no accountability," Krueger said.

The editor of the National Catholic Reporter agreed the church scandal is not just about sex.
"This has long ceased to be just a scandal about sex abuse. It's a scandal about abuse of power and trust, and a breech of faith with people," said Tom Roberts.

Bill Burleigh, a member of the conference's National Review Board, said he would not comment until the survey is released. No clergy serve on the review board.

According to the survey, 78 percent of those abused were between 11 and 17, 16 percent were 8 to 10, and nearly 6 percent were 7 or younger.

The survey also said that several factors contributed to the problem, including failure to grasp its gravity, overemphasis on the avoidance of scandal, use of unqualified treatment centers, misguided willingness to forgive and insufficient accountability.

More than 44,000 priests serve in the United States, according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.


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