Joel Bainerman
Public Debate : Talmud & Judaism
Mon Feb 9 08:13:44 2004
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A Public Debate On The
Talmud And Judaism
From Joel Bainerman
isratech@netvision.net.il
2-8-4


Dear Jeff -

Over time, as so many of your writers have made derogatory claims regarding Judaism, Torah or the Talmud, perhaps the time has come for a public debate on what the Talmud and Torah Judaism really stands for.

I and Rabbi Marvin Antelman have decided to issue a public challenge to any of your writers or readers who would like to debate us as to what exists in the Talmud and what the true meaning of Judaism is.

Therefore- we issue a public challenge who wishes to join the debate. We would the opportunity to reply to any comment or claim your writers or readers have about the Judaism, the Torah or the Talmud. We will study the text in question- and offer our interpretations as to what the true meaning of these texts are.

We await to hear from any of your readers regarding any tractate in the Talmud or the Torah.

Joel Bainerman (Zichron Yaacov, Israel)
Rabbi Marvin Antelman (Rehovot, Israel)



From Anonymous
2-9-4

The Laws Against Non-Jews - By Israel Shahak

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis5.htm#The%20Laws%20Against%20Non-Jews 



From
Michael Hoffman
hoffman@hoffman-info.com 2-8-4

Let's Have a Real Debate

The bottom line is: I have already taken on Talmudic "lawyers" like these two, online, via e-mail. My former opponents lied, obstructed, dodged and weaved, just like their brother Talmudists do in a court of "law." It's not a debate.

I want a true debate, where we meet before a live audience in a major city in the US where my colleagues and friends of truth can also be present. In that way, when these "lawyers" try to weasel out of one powerful dose of reality after another, they can be cross-examined and exposed, confronted with their evasions and brought to heel and this can only be accomplished in person.

My online exchanges with a host of Judaics were published in the book, "Hoffman Contra the Khazars" available for sale at our website. So this has already been done, by this writer at least. Let's move on to the next stage-- a live, videotaped debate. I'm not interested in anything less.

Sincerely,

Michael A. Hoffman II

Author: "Judaism's Strange Gods"



Comment
From Kieth Norman
2-9-4

Dear Jeff,

Mr Gibson has already mentioned the "dark forces" that are at work and it is
exremely likely that the "discussion" requested by the Rabbi and the
layman (read: ADLcorporate lawyer) is the beginning of the Talmudic
offensive...albeit shady and subversive.

There is another article on your site that connects to another site
where one has the 'opportunity' to discuss online: the Babylonian Talmud
with Rabbis and the owner of the website. I believe it was linked by
John Kaminski's 'Spiritual Gangsters'. Is this a coincidence??

Quite suddenly, we will find that 'they' will USE the Jewishness of Jesus
as a Semitic tool of defense and attempt to firstly pacify, then appease,
and then indoctrinate Christians with the "WE ALL BELONG TOGETHER" philosophy
and a "it's just a form of textual misunderstanding" that separates them from the
Christians. The 'Talmuddies' have 1971 years of "Devils Advocate" discussion and
process argument...Christians have only their belief in the words of both Testaments as they were
originally offered to them...notwithstanding interference by the clergy.

I think Pope John Paul realises this and that the differences that he has with Mel Gibson over Catholicism will be exploited by "THEM". Divide and Conquer scenario...The Foxmans of this world are running scared.

World population: 6,000,000,000
Jewish Population: 14,000,000 which equals (calculator please) =0.23333% or less than a quarter of one percent of the people on the planet.

Probably, the good Jews who want no part of "Foxman's Hell on Earth" policy will number over 13 million and these are the people that "The Passion" is NOT directed against. That is the real rationale for Foxman's Fury.

I seek no vengeance...just truth

Kieth Norman (WelshBrit)
Canada

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