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A NEW MOVEMENT – National 9-11 Project
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A NEW MOVEMENT – National 9-11 Project – Kansas City
by 9-11 Visibility Project-Kansas City

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Kansas City joins with Seattle to force Bush to stop blocking the 9-11 investigation. Activists worldwide are following suit. New York is next! 9-11 meet ups forming worldwide, pointing to Kansas City as an example.
KC Iraq Task Force, KC Peace Works, KC American Friends Service Committee, KC Greens, and other activists are JOINING to support a 911 Visibility Project - Kansas City

Peace & justice activists throughout the Kansas City area in conjunction with Seattle Thunder organized a 9-11 Visibility Group and have presented it to the Kansas City Iraq Task Force. Many activists, 911 families, and members of the 9-11 Commission feel that government officials are concealing pertinent facts about the September 11th attacks, in order to hide gross negligence and irresponsibility. Some even see the possibility of deliberate involvement by members of the Bush Administration.

The revelation of facts concerning 9-11 is THE most important issue facing America today, because it could directly expose a conspiracy to dupe Americans into approving an unjust war for oil.

For the past two years the Bush Administration has used the September 11th terrorist attacks as the main rationale for the "War on Terror," stripping away civil liberties at home while pursuing a militaristic foreign policy to gain control over Central Asian and Middle Eastern oil.

Constant reminders of the possibility of "further attacks," along with color-coded "terror alerts" in the mainstream media exploit the 9-11 tragedy and are part of an ongoing campaign to frighten and manipulate the public into accepting the Administration's agenda of global domination.

The Visibility Group holds that serious questions, previously trivialized by mainstream media are now coming into the spotlight. The Group intends to bring the seriousness of these questions to the attention of the American public, indicating that some are so serious that they could expose high treason in government.

Such questions, however remote, should be taken as seriously as any terrorist threat, until such time as suspected individuals and/or agencies are either cleared from suspicion or prosecuted. To leave the questions unanswered presents a threat to not only the security but to the integrity of the United States of America.

Some of the main questions the 9-11 Visibility Group want answered are:


1. WHY were no fighter jets scrambled to escort airliners on 9-11 shortly after they were detected to be off course and out of communication, per standard FAA and DOD operating procedures, proven to be in effect at the time of the hijackings?
2. Why did Donald Rumsfeld claim on national television that there were no fighters stationed at Andrews Air Force Base, while Air Force officials claimed that there were?
3. Why was no airliner debris found at the Pentagon crash site?
4. Why is the FBI withholding two videos that may show what really hit the Pentagon?
5. Why have photos from the DOD Pentagon security camera been falsified?
6. Why has the National Transportation Safety Board never held inquiries into any of the four plane crashes, as required by law?
7. Why is the FBI withholding the data from the airliners’ flight recorders?
8. Why was all of the steel from the TwinTowers shipped out of the country before any investigation was held?



Further questions may be found at several web sites including


* www.911review.org,
* www.deceptiondollar.com, and
* www.emperors-clothes.com


Many other sites link to these.

Kansas City and Seattle peace & justice activists now forming the 9-11 Visibility Project strongly encourage all citizens and patriots to become more aware of these and other questions concerning the 9-11 attacks, and get INVOLVED today!

Interested persons should contact feduphadenough (at) sbcglobal.net or findtruth40 (at) hotmail.com and ATTEND the events listed below.

A KC imc exclusive "An Interview with Bill Douglas – American Visionary" is now available (topics include: media complicity, veteran benefits, inspiration).
http://kcindymedia.org/newswire/display/1002/index.php

EVENTS
Thursday, November 20th, 7 pm, Crave Cafe
9-11 Questions "Meet-up," Kansas City, MO

Please RSVP here:
http://9-11questions.meetup.com/rsvp/?e=1111405&v=19951
Details will be emailed back to you.

Sunday, November 23rd, 4 pm
Vigil at JC Nichols Fountain by the Plaza at 47th and Main Street in Kansas City, MO.

Bill Douglas will be the featured speaker. Bill has authored two books and written for publications worldwide on peace, environment, human rights, and the 9-11 issue.

A teach-in will follow at Unity Temple just a few blocks away at 6:00. "The Great Deception," produced by acclaimed Canadian documentarian, Barrie Zwicker will be shown, followed by a discussion, and a question and answer period on what we can do locally. link: http://www.visiontv.ca/Archive/Archive.html


Friday, November 28th, 1 pm
Visibility ACTION Rally
We will meet at the Plaza Fountain, then assign four persons to as many each intersections as we can cover. Patriots with signs will hold their positions for three hours, then come back to the Plaza Fountains for a short gathering. The group will provide signs. Please bring an American flag if you have one.

CONTACT INFORMATION:
feduphadenough (at) sbcglobal.net
findtruth40 (at) hotmail.com
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Re: A NEW MOVEMENT – National 9-11 Project – Kansas City
by Andy Barenberg
Email: andybarenberg (at) hotmail.com (unverified!) Current rating: 0
22 Nov 2003
At the Iraq Task Force meeting where supporting this the 9-11 Visibility project was discussed Was alone in stating reservations – however afterwards several other members thanked me for my statements and said that they agreed; so if you excuse me I’ll continue to try to keep a bit of reality to the situation.

First an analogy. From the end of the Vietnam War on the U.S. Government declared that “it was supporting the families” of those by held POW by North Vietnam by demanding answer to absurd question (“Why don’t you provide the body of this pilot whose plane exploded over the ocean” etc.). The government used these questions to insinuate some absurd conspiracy of N. Vietnam to secretly keep dozens of US prisoners long after we knew they returned them all in order to excuse not giving promised reparations. The U.S. “support for the families” undoubtedly gave them much more grief and emotional trauma. It is vital – if we seriously want to “support the families” - and not just use them as props in a partisan political battle - that we are not creating false images of a conspiracy that just simply isn’t there.

For the questions listed above the answers let’s see which answer would best fit Occam ’s Razor:
1)WHY were no fighter jets scrambled to escort airliners on 9-11 shortly after they were detected to be off course and out of communication, per standard FAA and DOD operating procedures, proven to be in effect at the time of the hijackings?
Option A) SNAFU
Option B) somebody called Andrews and asked: “Hey – are you a Republican? Yes? Good – you get to help your party….There will some planes hijacked today – crashing into buildings; starting a war and the like – ya – don’t intercept those… OK?”

2) Why did Donald Rumsfield claim on national television that there were no fighters stationed at Andrews Air Force Base, while Air Force officials claimed that there were?
Option A) Trying to cover-up embarrassing SNAFU
Option B) Trying to cover-up secret government conspiracy to kill 3,000 Americans.

3) Why was no airliner debris found at the Pentagon crash site?
Option A) Thin airplane metal, 3000 degree fire for 18 hours….
Option B) The Government intentionally caused an explosion at the Pentagon by some other means; meanwhile Flight 77 was being hijacked; but then taken over by a secret government remote control program – (I’m not making this up- this what some people actually believe; see http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/pent.html ) Apparently ever since the passenger have peen put into a secret program to train them as secret governmental agent of something. 4) Why is the FBI withholding two videos that may show what really hit the Pentagon?
Option A) the pentagon is touchy about these type of things;
Option B) “What really hit the pentagon?”!!!!!! Do we really believe option B on the question before!!!! Really now, what do the families of Flight 77 passengers think of this question?
Skip to 8) Why was all of the steel from the Twin Towers shipped out of the country before any investigation was held?
Option A) Why would they investigate the steel?
Option B) To hide the traces of C4 explosives, of course! You see, there had been charges placed within the buildings to bring them down (nobody noticed them) and then to cover this up they crashed planes into the building (so you wouldn’t that there were explosives set – tricky ehh?).
Of course those planes were under control by the same remote control devices as used for Flight 77. If you go to some of the websites suggested above this is actually the theory presented.


To consider these question a social issue is absurd – an insult to the intelligence of both the families of the victims and the Iraq Task Force. I’m proud to have worked with the Iraq Task Force as we correctly showed that US blocking of Oil-for-Food program aid was causing starvation, that the inspections had created a high level of certainty that that Iraq had no meaningful WMD, and that post-war scenarios would not be pretty. We have bucked the orthodoxy often and been validated before – we should build upon our track record for giving good accurate analysis; not going on absurd insinuate-unfounded-charges-through-pointless-questions tangents.
Additionally this is not THE issue – as Bill puts it; caps and all. I must disagree that every issue can be solved by this issue. Was there no problem before 9-11, before Bush took office? While I have been known to make passionate speeches against the policies of the current administration we will do little service to those we are trying to aid if we make Bush the scapegoat for all of our problems. I will continue to face address the issue according to where I think my activism might help someone’s life, where the statement I say I know are well founded and not simply on the basis of “this is where we can stick it to the Bushes.”

Andy Barenberg

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Re: A NEW MOVEMENT – National 9-11 Project – Kansas City
by Bill Douglas
Email: findtruth40 (at) hotmail.com (unverified!) Current rating: 2
23 Nov 2003
Andy, you referred to Vietnam. Are you aware that the Gulf of Tonkin incident that started Vietnam and won over Americans for that foriegn invasion "never happened."??

Andy, on the interceptor jets failing on 9-11. If someone just "screwed up," as you suggest. Do you think any type of reprimand, or prosecution for perhaps involuntary manslaughter might be in order? Nothing of the sort has occurred. But, I suppose in your mind no one should be held accountable in the Bush Administration, because that would be just too "aggressive," to actually demand they be held accountable.

Andy, if Donald Rumsfeld falsified a DOD information site to fool America, he shouldn't be held accountable for fraud. That would be "too aggressive." Americans have no right to truth from our government. That would be too much to ask.

Andy, on the Pentagon crash, there are security cameras all around the Pentagon yet none have been shown. None of the airliners black boxes have seen the light of day. But, it would be paranoid and insulting for us, or the 9-11 families, to demand to have this oddity be explained. How dare we as Americans demand real answers to such questions. And Bush's two years of blocking a 9-11 investigation is completely understandable and anyone who would question his outrageous behavior does a disservice to us all.

Gosh Andy, I stand corrected. We should just all sit still and shut up. 9-11 Commissioner, former Senator, and triple amputee decorated Vietnam Veteran Max Cleland should just shut up and let Bush dictate what he will or will not release about 9-11. In fact Cleland's shouting that Bush's obstruction of 9-11 being "DISGUSTING" and a "SCAM ON AMERICANS" don't deserve to be said with capitol emphasis.

Bush has no obligation to explain any of this, and he can tell the 9-11 Commission what he will or will not give them with impunity. Why? Because some, such as yourself, in the justice movement in this country didn't have the back bone or critical thought process required to DEMAND THE FULL TRUTH ABOUT 9-11 (and yes, I think caps are required here.

Andy, it might serve you well to view "The Great Deception" and read "The War on Freedom" at the very least before you email these baseless Bush apologist rants out.
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