Gonzales faces tough questions at hearing
Democratic senators grill attorney general nominee on torture

Alberto Gonzales appears Thursday before the Senate Judiciary Committee
Thursday, January 6, 2005 Posted: 3:55 PM EST (2055 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/gonzales.hearing/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Alberto Gonzales, President Bush's nominee for attorney
general, faced tough questions Thursday from members of the Senate Judiciary
Committee at a hearing focusing on the administration's position on the
treatment of prisoners in Iraq and the war on terror.
Gonzales, the White House counsel, is appearing before the Judiciary Committee
in the first step of what could be a bruising confirmation process to head the
Justice Department.
"Do you approve of torture?" Sen. Arlen Specter, the committee chairman, asked
as the confirmation hearing got under way.
"Absolutely not," Gonzales answered.
Gonzales has been criticized over a Justice Department memo on Afghanistan
detainees that was addressed to him. In the August 2002 memo, then-Assistant
Attorney General Jay Bybee wrote, "We conclude that torture as defined ...
covers only extreme acts."
According to Bybee, U.S. law defined "severe" pain as that "equivalent in
intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ
failure, impairment of bodily function or even death."
When asked if he agreed with that position at the time, Gonzales told Sen.
Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the panel: "I don't recall today
whether or not I was in agreement with all of the analysis. But I don't have a
disagreement with the conclusions then reached by the department."
He said that the Justice Department was responsible for interpreting the law.
"We asked the question. That memo represented the position of the executive
branch at the time it was issued," Gonzales said.
He said he does not now agree with that interpretation and that it does not
reflect the administration's position.
When Leahy asked if the president has the authority to override laws against
torture and immunize officials from prosecution, Gonzales replied, "The
president has said we're not going to engage in torture under any
circumstances. And so you're asking me to answer a hypothetical that is never
going to occur."
In response to heated questioning by Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts,
Gonzales acknowledged the memo was addressed to him but said he could not
recall if he requested it.
The administration has maintained it does not allow torture. Last month, the
Justice Department issued a new memo more broadly defining actions that would
be considered torture. (Full story)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/31/justice.torture.memo.ap/
But critics charge that the administration's policies opened the door to such
behavior as the abuse of prisoners documented in photos taken at Iraq's Abu
Ghraib facility. (Prisoner abuse timeline)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/05/prisoner.abuse.timeline.ap/index.html
Gonzales told the committee that he "was sickened and outraged by those
photos."
But he said he did not want to provide a legal opinion as to whether the
conduct at Abu Ghraib was criminal, citing ongoing prosecutions.
Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Delaware, however, accused Gonzales of hiding behind a
"straw man" to avoid answering questions.
"That's malarkey," Biden said. "You are obliged to comment. That's your
judgment we're looking at. ... We're looking for candor."
Gonzales also has been criticized for a January 2002 memo that he wrote to
Bush. In that memo, he argued the terrorism fight "renders obsolete [the
Geneva Conventions'] strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and
renders quaint some of its provisions."
Numerous civil rights groups have voiced opposition to Gonzales, and a dozen
retired military leaders sent a letter to the committee expressing "deep
concern" about his nomination. (Full story)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/29/gonzalez.civilrights/index.html
Meanwhile, other lawmakers were open in their support of the nominee.
"You've acted, I think, with the highest honor as White House counsel," said
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. "I have tremendous respect for you, not only as a
human being ... but also as an attorney and as someone, I believe, who has
tried to give the president the best advice. I stand ready and willing to help
you."
In his opening statement, Gonzales said that "wherever we pursue justice --
from the war on terror to corporate fraud to civil rights -- we must always be
faithful to the rule of law.
"I want to make very clear that I am deeply committed to the rule of law."
Leahy also expressed concerns about Gonzales' close ties to the White House.
"At a time when the Republican Party has control of all three branches of the
federal government, my worry is that the system of checks and balances may
become short-circuited by too few checks of assertions of executive branch
authority," Leahy said.
"My concern is that during several high profile matters in your professional
career, you have appeared to serve as a facilitator rather than an independent
force in the policy-making process."
Gonzales told the panel that if he is confirmed, he would no longer solely
represent the White House.
"I will represent the United States of America and its people," he said. "I
understand the differences between the two roles. In the former, I have been
privileged to advise the president and his staff.
"In the latter, I would have a far broader responsibility: to pursue justice
for all the people of our great nation; to see that the laws are enforced in a
fair and impartial manner for all Americans."
He said that after the September 11, 2001, attacks the government had
"fundamental decisions to make concerning how to apply treaties and U.S. law
to an enemy that does not wear a uniform, owes no allegiance to a country, is
not a party to any treaties, and -- most importantly -- does not fight
according to the laws of war."
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