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Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11
Tue Jan 6 00:13:46 2004
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Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11

Darren on: The attack of Iraq
Fri Sep 6 16:29:02 2002
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Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11
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Richard J. Boylan Ph.D
THE UNDERGROUND INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES
Tue Sep 3 14:41:28 2002
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/9-06-02/discussion.cgi.61.shtml

THE SECRET TEAM
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/9-06-02/discussion.cgi.74.shtml

Mr. BUSH, DON'T INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/9-06-02/discussion.cgi.64.shtml

B.D. QUIG 911 ABSTRACT
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/9-06-02/discussion.cgi.82.shtml

U.N. Charter, Chapter 7 (Ref. Secret War Powers) (& More)
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Bush is attempting to convince Congress to start a war
Thu Sep 5 04:23:19 2002
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President Bush is attempting to convince Congress to start a war with Iraq.
Enclosed is documented evidence that millions in FOREIGN CASH was used to
promote the last war with Iraq while George W. Bush was a key advisor to
President George H. W. Bush:
FUNDING WAR PUBLIC RELATIONS WITH FOREIGN CASH --
LIKE FATHER LIKE SON?
[ http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0209/S00021.htm  ]
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From: "goodsister95476"

Jackie, I see you belong to the list Quig's Fight. Did you know that
Brian Downing Quig was a member of this group? Yes. Before he was
killed, as of course you know, Quig was an active online political
writer and activist. His main focus was on 9/11 investigation. He
and I posted alongside each other for a long time, on a variety of
online venues, and knew each other fairly well. When he began
posting positively about Kucinich, I invited him to this group, and
he told me he'd known and worked with Dennis 30 years ago, in
Cleveland. He very much wanted to see Dennis become President.

And then he was killed. Hit by an automobile at 2 AM, in a town not
his own, pushing a shopping cart carrying plywood. He'd been visited
and harrassed by the Feds not long before.

Brian was one of us.

Goodsister

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Quigs_Fight/
=====================
THE DEATH OF BRIAN DOWNING QUIG
# 1
Brian Downing Quig, Investigative Journalist, Whistleblower, and a personal
friend of mine was Killed Monday June 16th at 2-230 AM PST, Brian was hit
by a car at 75th Ave. & Catalina Dr. in Phoenix Arizona. Brian was struck
by a
vehicle driven by a 17 year old Hispanic, with 2 passengers, one passenger
was hospitalized, the driver was taken into custody for drug testing and
being held for questioning. Brian was cremated. Services by close friends
were
held Sat June 21, 2003.

An investigation by myself and others is ongoing, reports are forthcoming.

Brian had been a resesearcher, Investigator, and Journalist for nearly 20
years, working in the Phoenix, Arizona area, he had Contributed to such
Books as
"The Mafia CIA & George Bush", by Pete Brewton SPI, Press NY NY.
(your local library). He further had a web-site www.dcia.com, in which his
investigative articles had exposed many Illegal CIA-Bush drug operations.
Brian had been a lead investigator in such exposes as The Buddhist Temple
Murders & the murder of talk show host Don Bolls of Arizona.

During the 1989-1992 Lincoln Saving & Loan Frauds, Brian & I had worked
hand in hand investigating the ties of CIA Charles Keating with Silverado
Savings and Loan, and its owner Leonard Millman, & his "front-cronies" Neil
Bush, Larry Mizel, Millman/Bush-CIA Attorney Norman Brownstein, all
directors of Silverado.
Brian was actually going to Charles Keating corporate offices at night
digging
in the trash cans, retrieving documents, notes, and carbon copies for our
investigations.
Some of these documents were later turned over to the Attorneys who Filed
suit and actually Jailed CIA-Charles Keating in July of 1992.
This suit and a 2 Billion Dollar Judgment rendered against Keating, and
other including MDC Holdings, Inc. (Silverado) The Saudi European
Investment Corp., (Part of BCCI-Bank of Credit and Commerce International)
which included members of the Saudi Royal Family, Kuwait, Pakistan,
including
former Texas Governor John Connelly. Connelly had been the passenger in
the Presidential Limousine when President John F. Kennedy was Murdered.

This RICO Lawsuit that Jailed Charles Keating, and which forced John
Connelly in to filing bankrupts, was after Federal, State, and local
prosecutors refused to do their jobs, which is Obstruction of Justice.

Later I found out about the Bribes and Payoffs of these officials laundered
through M&L Business Machines Company of Denver, Colorado, an MDC Holding,
Inc. subsidiary company.
MDC Holdings, Inc. is controlled by "The Bush Crime Family King Pin
Comptroller Money launderer and Knights Templar Leonard Yale Millman who
owned and operated Silverado.
(Stew Webb's former father in law)
(See: www.stewwebb.com The Bush Crime Family Flow Chart)

Brian had further discovered connections of the notorious illegal weapons
for narcotics dealer General John Singlaub who was involved heavily with
Iran/Contra & who still to this day, is involved with Narcotics trafficking
into America. General Singlaub based in Phoenix was deeply involved with
General Richard Secord and Col. Oliver North, which has been testified too,
that General Singlaub ran the Mena Arkansas Drug operations which had ties
to George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and others.
General Singlaub had been fired by President Jimmy Carter.
General John Singlaub had offices across the hall from Charles Keating.

Brian further discovered that Walter Bush of Walter Bush Securities, George
H.W. Bush's nephew, had offices across the hall from Charles Keating as
well.
Brian had retrieved tremendous documentation, of which he shared copies of
notes and other things relating to Arms dealings and narcotics, securities
frauds, and Direct White House and Secret Service Connections and
communications relating to cover-ups of these frauds.

Brian further had retrieved documentation showing Charles Keating being an
attorney for Carl Lindnar of Ohio, owner of Chiquita Bananas & United
fruit.
Carl Lindnar was the owner of the Costa Rico Ranch which was directly
involved with the Iran-Contra Narcotics for weapons operations.
Brian had further supplied me with a copy of a document showing that
Charles Keating was ordered by a court never to enter into the Financial
Institutions Business after the collapse of Home State saving of Ohio
involving Carl Lindnar and Mossad Bruce Rapport. Charles Keating had been
the previous Attorney and Board of Directors of American Financial Corp.
Parent company of Home State Saving, which was one of the first Savings and
Loan collapses dating back to 1979.

I have several copies hidden, given to me by a top intelligence operative
that shows the indictments by Costa Rica, Senate & Congress of Carl Lindar,
Oliver North, George H.W. Bush, General Singlaub, John Hall, General
Richard Secord, Assistant U.S. Attorney William Richard Scruggs and others,
involving Narcotics for weapons operations on Carl Lindnars Ranch in Costa
Rica. Carl Lindnar is know as one of the two Illegal Comptrollers-Money
Launders of
"The Bush Crime Family" in the United States.
Lindnar known as the OHIO Connection.
The other Comptroller being Leonard Millman of Denver Colorado, known as
the Denver Connection. Millman was the owner of 17,000 acres of property in
Belize on the east coast of Mexico which was used for guns and drugs
involving Panama and Nicaragua all part of Iran/Contra. This property in
Belize had further ownership involving Neil Bush and CIA-Congressman Porter
Goss of Florida, who now is the Chairman of the House Intelligence
Oversight Committee.
(See: www.stewwebb.com "The Bush Crime Family Flow Chart)

Brian further, came and saw me last year in Las Vegas for 3 days, in which,
we shared tremendous information relating to each others investigations and
overlays. In particular Oklahoma City Bombing.
It is always a delight to have someone as knowledgeable as Brian was about
current illegal operations of State (Shadow Government).
I have found over the years that very few hold the knowledge of the real
crimes
of the "Bush Crime Family". Therefore when I am able to get together with
old friends of the past, whom I have had the Honor of knowing and working
with, it is a delight, and of course I always am able to not only pick up
pieces of the puzzle, but also share the pieces I have. And know this
information will be keep confidential, until something serious can be done
to expose it.

I might add that I have had so many stupid people & Government spies try to
infiltrate me, by claiming to have information, like Ted Gunderson &
Groupie Brenda Negri, when infact they have nothing and are there to try
and bleed my brain, which of course, I learned this many years ago, so I
just play along and tell them what they want to hear with a lot of spin.
They usually walk out frustrate and when they find out I am not naive or
stupid and realize they have been had they always get td-off. I have
learned to spot them and they have a peculiar odor about them.
Brian and I laughed about the plants the last time I saw him in person.
I might add that I talked to Brian only days before his death, not only
about current things he was working on but also about Bush ordering the
Murders of Whistleblowers and I had warned him to watch his back and spread
the word.

I also had warned him regarding CIA Ted Gunderson Groupies, in particular
Nutcase Brenda Negri, who had been attacking Brian in the past on a yahoo
group message board. Brian was quite aware, and felt she was a
disinformationalist, he further said he would keep her entertained if she
bother him anymore.
Brian had further shared with me information were a spook had put something
out claiming I was giving legal advice to one of Brains adversaries, of
course this was not true. Brian had asked if I would confront this spook.
Brian and I discussed many things including how the Government metal cases,
were trying to disrupt and waist each others time.

There has been a small circle of true Investigative Journalist and
Whistleblower
some who worked for the Government and some like my self who never have,
but by some weird circumstances became a Federal Whistleblower.
In this small circle everyone pretty much knows of each other, and in many
cases have either helped one another on various Investigations or have
helped the other when in need of information, or help on their particular
case.
Brian was a person who would go out of his way for someone in need,
and had always helped with various investigations when I called upon him.
And I would always help Brian, he was not only a friend, he was sincere
dedicated and could be trusted.

I myself had helped Brian regarding the Temple Murders, I had spent several
days with Brian in 1996 while doing a speech there. I had the opportunity
to meet several of Brains close associates, and even had the Feds, Office
of Strategic Services tracking me for quite awhile, until I was able to
shake them. Brian had said they had not been around for a long time
bothering him.

I further will add for humor, this was in 1994, while I had been in phoenix
for a
conference and to do a speech were I had asked Brian to also address the
audience.
Other friends of mine IRS Attorney Larry Becraft, Gene Shroulder who
exposed the emergency wars powers act, had also spoken together with me at
the conference. The next day, Brian myself and others were at the swimming
pool at the motel were I & others stayed, this was in 1994 back then we
booth were
a few years younger, and not so much gray hair.
Anyway here is the story we are at the pool drooling over 2 beautiful
women, these women were number 11 on a scale of 1-10, 10 being tops.
So Brian's says shall we try, I said sure, but if we tell them what we
booth
do for a living, they will run like hell.
Brian says we will try to avoid this, I was in agreement. So when we made
the moves, and by our own surprise, they were politically orientated and
hated the Government they though of Politicians as criminals. So when we
were asked what we booth did, these gorgeous beasts were so impressed, they
would not leave us alone.
We actually spent the evening en-training them, Brian as I recall dated
the one several times, they booth were from Flag staff north of Phoenix.
At that time I was living in Denver.

The funny thing was when Brian came to Vegas, we spent so much time
discussing The Lord, end time prophecy and how America was going into the
tubes, because Americans just sit by waiting for someone to pick up the
ball and run with it. Yet as Brian stated they want guys like you and I to
do the work, yet they will not even help out with money to see it gets
done.
Brian said if we could ever get the Grand Jury,
Bush would be Jailed and Hung for Treason.

Brian, I am going to miss you my friend, and I give you my promised I will
find out what happened, and if this was Bush, and not an accident, who ever
I find was involved, will feel the heat.

I have had now over 20 of my friends killed at the hands of The Bush Crime
Family.
Only 3 have we found who did it. Those 3 killers are in there graves.
Good people within the Intelligence community do not like it when, they hear
that someone like Brian was killed. They happen to take revenge themselves.
Feeling it is the only form of Justice.

See you in heaven one day.
Your friend always.
Stew Webb
==========
The Police reported the following:
Monday June 16th at 2-230 AM PST, Brian was hit
by a car at 75th Ave. & Catalina Dr. in Phoenix Arizona. Brian was struck
by a
vehicle driven by a 17 year old Hispanic, with 2 passengers, one passenger
was hospitalized, the driver was taken into custody for drug testing and
being held for questioning. Brian was cremated.

FACTS NOT FICTION:
Here are the current facts, that I will release now:
First, the accident was at 75th & Pinchot Ave, Brian was reportedly crossing
Pinchot and struck by the teenagers, who call the police at 2:31am reporting
the accident at 2:30am, police arrived at 2:36am.
Second, the police had claimed to Brian's sisters and mother, after his
reported death that Brian was so smashed up that
"You do not want to see the body".
Third, Brian was never identified by anyone who knew him.
Fourth, Brian was reportedly cremated the next day June 17, 2003.
Fifth, Brian had been being stalked and harassed by Police back in April
2003
in which his home was raided without a warrant, and ransacked.
Sixth, Brian was involved in exposing current CIA Drug operations,
among various others, including exposing the temple murders on local
radio broadcasts. The temple murders were involving CIA drugs also.
Brian was being suite by a local developer.
Brian had been being harassed by a CIA-Domestic Contact Services Stalker,
Brenda Negri.
Brian was setting up various individuals on a local radio broacast,
exposing various criminal elements in phoenix.
Brian was further bringing out some old Charles Keating-Walter Bush-General
John Singlaub evidence, that people now have interest in.
Further Brian had information on others involved in the Oklahoma Bombing
involving Tim McVeigh and CIA Terry Lynn Nichols.
There are several other leads I have that I will not disclose at this time.

Here is the kicker, The Police Detective Division have closed the case.
Claiming a car ran over and killed Brian Downing Quig...
They are hesitant in releasing reports, they are rude to individuals who
have tried to obtain information relating to the so called accident and