Greg MacInnis
Re: Why NASA DIDN'T land on the moon.
Sun May 18 16:41:15 2003
208.152.73.188

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Why NASA DIDN'T land on the moon.
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 16:23:42 -0300
From: "Greg MacInnis" g_mac_i@hotmail.com
To: prospyrus@livemuse.com
CC: apfn@apfn.org


The following message is to Kyle Connolly in reply to something that was posted at www.apfh.org
I have also taken the liberty to send this message to APFN so they can look it over.

Mr Connolly,

I am writing in reply to something that you had stated about the Apollo landings not being a hoax.

One of your replies was:
Did you really think that they just sent them up there in an airtight
jumper? OK. I'm gonna make this real easy for you. Here is a quote from
the NASA KIDS website. so you should be able to understand it. "The
space suit is made of hard materials with jointed sections to allow
movement. The upper and lower torso sections are put on separately. The
two pieces are connected at the waist to allow the flow of water and gas
lines. Gloves and helmet create a sealed protection against meteoroids
and radiation. On Earth, the space suit weighs about 100 pounds. In
space, the suit weighs much less. Under normal conditions, a space suit
should last about 8 years." So. assuming you can read. you have just
learnt about an American space suit. There is a hard layer of plastic,
among many other things, protecting the astronauts from the vacuum of
space.

Clearly you overlooked something stated earlier in the article:

The questions don't stop there. Outer space is awash with deadly radiation that emanates from solar flares firing out from the sun. Standard astronauts orbiting earth in near space, like those who recently fixed the Hubble telescope, are protected by the earth's Van Allen belt. But the Moon is to 240,000 miles distant, way outside this safe band. And, during the Apollo flights, astronomical data shows there were no less than 1,485 such flares.

John Mauldin, a physicist who works for NASA, once said shielding at least two meters thick would be needed. Yet the walls of the Lunar Landers which took astronauts from the spaceship to the moons surface were, said NASA, about the thickness of heavy duty aluminum foil.

You also replied to a statement about the size of the prints from the astronaughts as compared to the Lunar Lander with:

A few things you're forgetting.. It's mas was 17 tonnes, yes, however
since weight is relative to gravity, and the moon has 1/6th the earth's
gravity, the WEIGHTof the lunar lander was only 17/6 tonnes (2.833
tonnes). Now I'm not saying that this is light, there was dust stirred
up when it landed, but no more that when a chopper landes here on earth.

Yes, the weight of the lander would be lighter, but so would the astronaught, keeping the argument intact that the lander should have made a bigger print than that of the astronaught... You also left out the fact of the thrusters, and with the help of that argument I have just presented, the thruster argument also remains intact.

And as towards the argument of a fluttering flag, you replied:

...And as for the fluttering.. less drugs for you, man. it's not
moving at all. Do you know what happens when a flag is stowed for
several weeks, all folded up? You guessed it.. It gets wrinkled!...

Yes, I see your point here, but in order for the flag to be as wrinkled as it looked(or maybe it was fluttering), it would have to have been crumpled into a ball while it was stowed, when it's well know that folding something neatly helps for better storage, and also any proud American, ans I sure these astronaughts and the workers at NASA are(or atleast were up until they all lied), would not have done something such as crumpling to the American flag.

Also, even if the flag was wrinkled, it would not be suspended as it was, because of the fact that the flag needs wind and air in order to act in that manner. If your thinking something along the lines of "It's space, the flag is extra light, it'll automatically stay up"... If that was the case, then the flag would be sticking straight up, almost looking like a red, white and blue rope. Plus the flag did still have a weight, although a small one, it was there, therefore the flag would be sitting still as it would on earth with no wind to lift it.

I would love to hear your comments on the preceding, please reply to this message.

Sincerly,
Greg MacInnis - g_mac_i@hotmail.com