Comments On Terri's Murder
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Comments On Terri's Murder
http://rense.com/general63/comont.htm
3-31-5
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com
3-31-5
Hello, Jeff - I was so sorry to hear about Terri. For someone who allegedly 'wanted' to die, she surely gave it a good fight. 13 days.
I had never received such nasty emails as those sent to me over my opinion on Terri. I never knew such terrible language existed. Amazing.
Remind me to stay out of Florida. I would hate to take ill there.
I am so sorry for Terri and America. "All that we need for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing."
Incidently, if I were Michael Schiavo's girlfriend - aka common law wife - I would think twice about marrying him. In the very least, I would make sure to have a legal living will.
Patty
From EleanorWhite
3-31-5
Now that Terri is dead, it is time to step back and NEVER allow the US government to say to anyone that they "oppose torture".
Terri's killing proved conclusively otherwise.
From Judith Moriarty
3-31-5
Dear Governor Bush -
You had it in your power to step in by Executive Order and stop this barbaric, pre-emptive shock and awe, 'torturous' death of a handicapped woman by dehydration and withholding of food.
Men on death row in this country, found unequivocally guilty, of the most heinous of crimes, are afforded more humane treatment. Animals in your state-cattle, dogs, and beached porpoises are cared for with more compassion.
God help the elderly, handicapped, and less-than-perfect in our self- centered materialistic society which sees the less-than-perfect as a burden, not cost-effective, and worthy of death. God help the seniors and retirees in the state of Florida (elsewhere in the USA) who have witnessed their own fates; absent any media attentions.
I certainly would see to renaming your state, other than the Sunshine State, The Euthanasia State. It might be more appropriate. Thankfully, I have no intentions of ever visiting Florida, sun or no sun.
I hope others are just as fearful; given this depraved indifference to life with the whole of the world watching.
Thankfully, the Pope was not visiting (he with a feeding tube) or I have no doubt you'd have stood silently by and watched his demise by those flunkies you've given power over to in your state - the high priests in black robes. Since, by your own admission, their power supersedes your own, perhaps Florida might consider doing away with the Governorship and Legislative branches of government?
mailto:jeb.bush@myflorida.com jeb.bush@myflorida.com
J. Moriarty
New Hampshire
Warning - Are You Being Targeted For Euthanasia?
By Mary Therese Helmueller, R.N.
3-30-5
In 1984, while working as charge nurse in the intensive care unit, a 20-year-old man asked me, "Can you give my mother enough morphine to let her sleep away?" I was horrified. "I can not kill your mother," I responded. That was only the beginning. Recently, an 80-year-old was admitted to the emergency room and the physician said, "LET'S DEHYDRATE HER"; one more patient was sentenced to die in hospice with NO TERMINAL DIAGNOSIS and once again, THE LIVING WILL determined the death of a 70-year-old man regardless of how he pleaded to live. I can no longer remain silent.
Your life may be in danger if you are admitted to a hospital, especially if you are over 65 or have a chronic illness or a disability. The elderly are frequently dying three days after being admitted to the hospital. Some attribute it to "old age syndrome" while others admit that overdosing is all too common. Euthanasia is not legal but it is being practiced.
Last year the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 1 in 5 critical care nurses admit to having hastened the death of the terminally ill! I believe the percentage is much higher. I have worked with nurses who even admit to overdosing their parents. No one knows the exact euthanasia rate in the United States, however Dr. Dolan from the University of Minnesota states that 40 percent of all reported deaths is probably a conservative estimation. If this is true then the United States is executing euthanasia at a higher percentage rate than the Netherlands where it is also illegal but widely practiced.
Did you know that many doctors and nurses whom we trust are speaking openly about their desire to practice euthanasia? In fact they are even speaking about ending their OWN lives when they reach the age of 65 or BEFORE if diagnosed with an illness. Some even admit to stealing the drugs for their own lethal injection. Think about it. These are the same people who will determine the value of YOUR life. If they do not value their own, how can you expect them to value yours?
More- http://rense.com/general63/euth.htm
CBS Announces Terri's
Death Before She Dies!
By Sharon Hughes
NewsWithViews.com
3-31-5
According to fellow radio talk show host, Glen Beck, CBS posted an article announcing Terri Schiavo's death on its News website BEFORE SHE DIED. Written by Christine Lagorio and posted on March 28 it said, " "Surrounded by stuffed animals and medical equipment in her small hospice room in Pinellas Park, Fla., Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo died.TK" They, however, removed it within a day, but Glen Beck saw it and published it on his blogsite before it was removed.
More- http://rense.com/general63/deps.htm
===================================================
Terri - America's Downfall...
And The Devil's Delight
By Jani Allan
3-30-5
Millions of words have written about the fate of Terri Schindler. It may seem redundant to add any more. But I am rather keen on making it a matter of record what my views are as a foreigner in America.
South Africa, became a pariah nation when television cameras captured white policemen beating black activists. How will America recover when for all the world to see, a 41-year-old woman, who has committed no crime, will die of dehydration and starvation in the longest public execution in American history?
How can America hope to recover from the images that the world has seen of barn door- sized cops, brutally arresting children whose only crime was compassion for Terri? How can America recover from strip-searching Terri's visitors, lest they be "terrorists" - "terrorists" concealing a chip of ice on their person to stroke on her parched lips?
More- http://rense.com/general63/devilsd.htm
===================================================
Terri Shiavo's Brain
Forgive Them - They Know Not
What They Do Not Know
The Enticy Institute
3-30-5
Words are so easy to use. Words mean things. Words are also easily used, especially when the right words elude.
In Florida, Terri Schiavo is now waiting to die. Does she know it? You can be assured she does. Can she speak about it? No. Does that mean she is in a 'vegetative state'? NO!
But what is a 'vegetative state'? According to "Dr. Jeffrey Frank, director of neurological and neurosurgical intensive care at the University of Chicago" [1], "A person in a vegetative state is 'awake but not aware,'... 'Though reflexes may cause them to turn toward a sound, gaze at an object or respond to touch, 'there is no thought connected ... these are primitive, instinctual responses.'" [1]
Excuse me?
That just described the vast majority of humans. Most humans do not use the short-term 'conscious' process of their brain for more than a way station of information. The motor control outputted from that short-term process, if employed would dramatically reduce stress, cut down drastically on reactionary physical violence and solve a great deal of the world's problems.
The problem here is that neuroscience has not one clue what being 'aware' means.
"'For all that medicine can do, we have no way of looking into another person's mind and understanding what is there,' said Dr. James Bernat, professor of neurology at Dartmouth Medical School." [1]
But that does not stop courts from depending upon that total ignorance to determine a 'vegetative state'.
In what other field would a court rely on 'expert' testimony and opinion where the 'expert' admits to not having a single clue as to how the thing they are examining works? None!
In the mean time, Terri Schiavo is suffering from a lack of motor control. He brain is sending signals to motion but those signals are not getting through to muscle groups and that results in the inability to speak, move and control motion.
From the outside looking in, neuroscience sees no motion and declares a 'vegetative state'; news organizations, with even less of a clue, declare the patient to be 'brain dead' (See any recent ABC news report).
The facts are far more interesting.
Terri Schiavo is NOT brain dead. If she were she would BE dead. Brain death is the measurement for lack of life in this country. How dare a news organization mix those words?
Terri Schiavo is NOT in a 'vegetative state'. If she were she would be on life support as a vegetable has no brain. How dare a scientist mix words to diagnose an ailment that involves motor control. She can swallow. She can eat. She can drink. She just cannot do it for herself. Under that use of words, a paraplegic should be 'allowed to die' as they cannot do so either.
"Though Schiavo has become a cause celebre, her case is not unusual. Every day in hospitals and nursing homes, physicians and families struggle to understand what is going on in people who have suffered severe brain injuries: Do they feel? Do they think? Is this the way they'd want to live?" [1]
More- http://rense.com/general63/terrishiavosbrain.htm
AMERICAN'S NEW "GOD"
By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
March 30, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
It used to be that most Americans believed in the God of THE HOLY BIBLE, but no longer. They have a new "god," the god of self. What is most important to most Americans now is doing what they want to do when they want to do it. Would God of THE HOLY BIBLE want a woman to be starved to death? Obviously not. But how many Americans do you think have even taken the time to contact the White House, their U.S. Senators and Congressmen. The answer is probably relatively few. Instead they were watching TV, sports events, etc. In other words, they were doing what they wanted to do at the moment rather than the will of God.
And where are all the religious leaders? The black clergy of the 1960s took visible action supporting the civil rights movement. They engaged in peaceful protest marches. How many so-called religious leaders today have you seen marching against the starvation of Terri Schiavo?
A young boy from my state traveled to Florida to try at least to bring a cup of water to this starving woman, but was arrested by police who handcuffed him. What lesson does that send to this boy and all other children across the land about our laws---it breeds disrespect for our laws among the youth of America.
What have we come to as a society if a feeding tube is considered an "extraordinary measure" that can be removed from someone who is then starved to death? It means that our society has determined there is no obligation to feed those unable to feed themselves (e.g., an infant or a paralyzed veteran). Why do we then legally bother to go after teens who deliver babies in school bathrooms and then leave the babies in dumpsters? Couldn't they also say they didn't murder the babies, but just "allowed them to die"?
What the government is doing to Terri Schiavo is state sanctioned murder, and it has been going on in hospitals and hospices across the U.S. for a long time. It just hasn't been publicized as has the case of Terri Schiavo, but the deaths are no less real, painful and murder, in which the American public has consented having embraced the culture of death.
More- http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis27.htm
Gross Hypocrisy
Surrounds Terri
By Mal Wade
3-30-5
Last night attorney, for Michael Schiavo, George Felos appeared on CNN to announce that Terri Schiavo was 'resting comfortably,' in no pain and looking "beautiful".
In another Rense.com article today Felos stated: "I saw no evidence of any bodily discomfort whatsoever. ( http://rense.com/general63/forced.htm).
Felos seems to have a way of convincing listeners to be gullible to his statements; however, how does he explain the actions of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast administering "morphine suppositories" to Terri Schiavo? Morphine is not administered to a patient for "resting comfortably" nor "looking beautiful"! Morphine is administered to patients who are in pain or seem to be in discomfort -
strange that the Hospice should be able to recognize this fact about Terri at these last minutes of her life. Was a doctor called in to witness this pain of discomfort or was there a standing prescription if the condition was recognized? - this condition, we are told, does not exist since Terri is, supposedly, unable to feel pain nor discomfort.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin's article, today, in NewsWithViews.com suggests more HYPOCRISY! Excerpt: Oh! I'm sure readers will be
pleased to know that the same State of Florida that has given its blessing to the slow starvation death of Terri Schiavo has just arrested a rancher in Immokalee, Florida, for starving his cows. According to press reports, his remaining cows were seized and fed by Domestic Animal Services. (The man faces up to FIVE YEARS in prison for animal cruelty.) How comforting!
The President of the United States, the Federal Legislature, the Governor of Florida nor the State of Florida Legislature have been able to muster the will or humanity to save Terri Schiavo from this unconventional form of death through starvation.
QUESTION: Has any convicted criminal or anyone else ever been sentenced to death by STARVATION in the United States of America? Will convicted criminals on Death Row now be starved to death? - it would be much cheaper and doctors would not be required.
Terri Schiavo was not even allowed a choice between "Lethal Injection" (which would have been more humane - and much quicker) or starvation. Domestic Animal Services should have been contacted to handle Terri's case - that department seems to get results - more HYPOCRISY.
More- http://rense.com/general63/hyp.htm
==========
Terri Schiavo has died
Thursday, March 31, 2005 Posted: 10:07 AM EST (1507 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html
Angel of God, my guardian dear,
Lift up Terri upon your loving wings
Next to the face of the Most High and
Thrill her soul with His infinite Grace and
Compassion -- from now and throughout
all eternity, with Love without end.
Amen.
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell
========================
http://rense.com/general63/comont.htm
3-31-5
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com
3-31-5
Hello, Jeff - I was so sorry to hear about Terri. For someone who allegedly 'wanted' to die, she surely gave it a good fight. 13 days.
I had never received such nasty emails as those sent to me over my opinion on Terri. I never knew such terrible language existed. Amazing.
Remind me to stay out of Florida. I would hate to take ill there.
I am so sorry for Terri and America. "All that we need for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing."
Incidently, if I were Michael Schiavo's girlfriend - aka common law wife - I would think twice about marrying him. In the very least, I would make sure to have a legal living will.
Patty
From EleanorWhite
3-31-5
Now that Terri is dead, it is time to step back and NEVER allow the US government to say to anyone that they "oppose torture".
Terri's killing proved conclusively otherwise.
From Judith Moriarty
3-31-5
Dear Governor Bush -
You had it in your power to step in by Executive Order and stop this barbaric, pre-emptive shock and awe, 'torturous' death of a handicapped woman by dehydration and withholding of food.
Men on death row in this country, found unequivocally guilty, of the most heinous of crimes, are afforded more humane treatment. Animals in your state-cattle, dogs, and beached porpoises are cared for with more compassion.
God help the elderly, handicapped, and less-than-perfect in our self- centered materialistic society which sees the less-than-perfect as a burden, not cost-effective, and worthy of death. God help the seniors and retirees in the state of Florida (elsewhere in the USA) who have witnessed their own fates; absent any media attentions.
I certainly would see to renaming your state, other than the Sunshine State, The Euthanasia State. It might be more appropriate. Thankfully, I have no intentions of ever visiting Florida, sun or no sun.
I hope others are just as fearful; given this depraved indifference to life with the whole of the world watching.
Thankfully, the Pope was not visiting (he with a feeding tube) or I have no doubt you'd have stood silently by and watched his demise by those flunkies you've given power over to in your state - the high priests in black robes. Since, by your own admission, their power supersedes your own, perhaps Florida might consider doing away with the Governorship and Legislative branches of government?
mailto:jeb.bush@myflorida.com jeb.bush@myflorida.com
J. Moriarty
New Hampshire
Warning - Are You Being Targeted For Euthanasia?
By Mary Therese Helmueller, R.N.
3-30-5
In 1984, while working as charge nurse in the intensive care unit, a 20-year-old man asked me, "Can you give my mother enough morphine to let her sleep away?" I was horrified. "I can not kill your mother," I responded. That was only the beginning. Recently, an 80-year-old was admitted to the emergency room and the physician said, "LET'S DEHYDRATE HER"; one more patient was sentenced to die in hospice with NO TERMINAL DIAGNOSIS and once again, THE LIVING WILL determined the death of a 70-year-old man regardless of how he pleaded to live. I can no longer remain silent.
Your life may be in danger if you are admitted to a hospital, especially if you are over 65 or have a chronic illness or a disability. The elderly are frequently dying three days after being admitted to the hospital. Some attribute it to "old age syndrome" while others admit that overdosing is all too common. Euthanasia is not legal but it is being practiced.
Last year the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 1 in 5 critical care nurses admit to having hastened the death of the terminally ill! I believe the percentage is much higher. I have worked with nurses who even admit to overdosing their parents. No one knows the exact euthanasia rate in the United States, however Dr. Dolan from the University of Minnesota states that 40 percent of all reported deaths is probably a conservative estimation. If this is true then the United States is executing euthanasia at a higher percentage rate than the Netherlands where it is also illegal but widely practiced.
Did you know that many doctors and nurses whom we trust are speaking openly about their desire to practice euthanasia? In fact they are even speaking about ending their OWN lives when they reach the age of 65 or BEFORE if diagnosed with an illness. Some even admit to stealing the drugs for their own lethal injection. Think about it. These are the same people who will determine the value of YOUR life. If they do not value their own, how can you expect them to value yours?
More- http://rense.com/general63/euth.htm
CBS Announces Terri's
Death Before She Dies!
By Sharon Hughes
NewsWithViews.com
3-31-5
According to fellow radio talk show host, Glen Beck, CBS posted an article announcing Terri Schiavo's death on its News website BEFORE SHE DIED. Written by Christine Lagorio and posted on March 28 it said, " "Surrounded by stuffed animals and medical equipment in her small hospice room in Pinellas Park, Fla., Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo died.TK" They, however, removed it within a day, but Glen Beck saw it and published it on his blogsite before it was removed.
More- http://rense.com/general63/deps.htm
===================================================
Terri - America's Downfall...
And The Devil's Delight
By Jani Allan
3-30-5
Millions of words have written about the fate of Terri Schindler. It may seem redundant to add any more. But I am rather keen on making it a matter of record what my views are as a foreigner in America.
South Africa, became a pariah nation when television cameras captured white policemen beating black activists. How will America recover when for all the world to see, a 41-year-old woman, who has committed no crime, will die of dehydration and starvation in the longest public execution in American history?
How can America hope to recover from the images that the world has seen of barn door- sized cops, brutally arresting children whose only crime was compassion for Terri? How can America recover from strip-searching Terri's visitors, lest they be "terrorists" - "terrorists" concealing a chip of ice on their person to stroke on her parched lips?
More- http://rense.com/general63/devilsd.htm
===================================================
Terri Shiavo's Brain
Forgive Them - They Know Not
What They Do Not Know
The Enticy Institute
3-30-5
Words are so easy to use. Words mean things. Words are also easily used, especially when the right words elude.
In Florida, Terri Schiavo is now waiting to die. Does she know it? You can be assured she does. Can she speak about it? No. Does that mean she is in a 'vegetative state'? NO!
But what is a 'vegetative state'? According to "Dr. Jeffrey Frank, director of neurological and neurosurgical intensive care at the University of Chicago" [1], "A person in a vegetative state is 'awake but not aware,'... 'Though reflexes may cause them to turn toward a sound, gaze at an object or respond to touch, 'there is no thought connected ... these are primitive, instinctual responses.'" [1]
Excuse me?
That just described the vast majority of humans. Most humans do not use the short-term 'conscious' process of their brain for more than a way station of information. The motor control outputted from that short-term process, if employed would dramatically reduce stress, cut down drastically on reactionary physical violence and solve a great deal of the world's problems.
The problem here is that neuroscience has not one clue what being 'aware' means.
"'For all that medicine can do, we have no way of looking into another person's mind and understanding what is there,' said Dr. James Bernat, professor of neurology at Dartmouth Medical School." [1]
But that does not stop courts from depending upon that total ignorance to determine a 'vegetative state'.
In what other field would a court rely on 'expert' testimony and opinion where the 'expert' admits to not having a single clue as to how the thing they are examining works? None!
In the mean time, Terri Schiavo is suffering from a lack of motor control. He brain is sending signals to motion but those signals are not getting through to muscle groups and that results in the inability to speak, move and control motion.
From the outside looking in, neuroscience sees no motion and declares a 'vegetative state'; news organizations, with even less of a clue, declare the patient to be 'brain dead' (See any recent ABC news report).
The facts are far more interesting.
Terri Schiavo is NOT brain dead. If she were she would BE dead. Brain death is the measurement for lack of life in this country. How dare a news organization mix those words?
Terri Schiavo is NOT in a 'vegetative state'. If she were she would be on life support as a vegetable has no brain. How dare a scientist mix words to diagnose an ailment that involves motor control. She can swallow. She can eat. She can drink. She just cannot do it for herself. Under that use of words, a paraplegic should be 'allowed to die' as they cannot do so either.
"Though Schiavo has become a cause celebre, her case is not unusual. Every day in hospitals and nursing homes, physicians and families struggle to understand what is going on in people who have suffered severe brain injuries: Do they feel? Do they think? Is this the way they'd want to live?" [1]
More- http://rense.com/general63/terrishiavosbrain.htm
AMERICAN'S NEW "GOD"
By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
March 30, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
It used to be that most Americans believed in the God of THE HOLY BIBLE, but no longer. They have a new "god," the god of self. What is most important to most Americans now is doing what they want to do when they want to do it. Would God of THE HOLY BIBLE want a woman to be starved to death? Obviously not. But how many Americans do you think have even taken the time to contact the White House, their U.S. Senators and Congressmen. The answer is probably relatively few. Instead they were watching TV, sports events, etc. In other words, they were doing what they wanted to do at the moment rather than the will of God.
And where are all the religious leaders? The black clergy of the 1960s took visible action supporting the civil rights movement. They engaged in peaceful protest marches. How many so-called religious leaders today have you seen marching against the starvation of Terri Schiavo?
A young boy from my state traveled to Florida to try at least to bring a cup of water to this starving woman, but was arrested by police who handcuffed him. What lesson does that send to this boy and all other children across the land about our laws---it breeds disrespect for our laws among the youth of America.
What have we come to as a society if a feeding tube is considered an "extraordinary measure" that can be removed from someone who is then starved to death? It means that our society has determined there is no obligation to feed those unable to feed themselves (e.g., an infant or a paralyzed veteran). Why do we then legally bother to go after teens who deliver babies in school bathrooms and then leave the babies in dumpsters? Couldn't they also say they didn't murder the babies, but just "allowed them to die"?
What the government is doing to Terri Schiavo is state sanctioned murder, and it has been going on in hospitals and hospices across the U.S. for a long time. It just hasn't been publicized as has the case of Terri Schiavo, but the deaths are no less real, painful and murder, in which the American public has consented having embraced the culture of death.
More- http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis27.htm
Gross Hypocrisy
Surrounds Terri
By Mal Wade
3-30-5
Last night attorney, for Michael Schiavo, George Felos appeared on CNN to announce that Terri Schiavo was 'resting comfortably,' in no pain and looking "beautiful".
In another Rense.com article today Felos stated: "I saw no evidence of any bodily discomfort whatsoever. ( http://rense.com/general63/forced.htm).
Felos seems to have a way of convincing listeners to be gullible to his statements; however, how does he explain the actions of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast administering "morphine suppositories" to Terri Schiavo? Morphine is not administered to a patient for "resting comfortably" nor "looking beautiful"! Morphine is administered to patients who are in pain or seem to be in discomfort -
strange that the Hospice should be able to recognize this fact about Terri at these last minutes of her life. Was a doctor called in to witness this pain of discomfort or was there a standing prescription if the condition was recognized? - this condition, we are told, does not exist since Terri is, supposedly, unable to feel pain nor discomfort.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin's article, today, in NewsWithViews.com suggests more HYPOCRISY! Excerpt: Oh! I'm sure readers will be
pleased to know that the same State of Florida that has given its blessing to the slow starvation death of Terri Schiavo has just arrested a rancher in Immokalee, Florida, for starving his cows. According to press reports, his remaining cows were seized and fed by Domestic Animal Services. (The man faces up to FIVE YEARS in prison for animal cruelty.) How comforting!
The President of the United States, the Federal Legislature, the Governor of Florida nor the State of Florida Legislature have been able to muster the will or humanity to save Terri Schiavo from this unconventional form of death through starvation.
QUESTION: Has any convicted criminal or anyone else ever been sentenced to death by STARVATION in the United States of America? Will convicted criminals on Death Row now be starved to death? - it would be much cheaper and doctors would not be required.
Terri Schiavo was not even allowed a choice between "Lethal Injection" (which would have been more humane - and much quicker) or starvation. Domestic Animal Services should have been contacted to handle Terri's case - that department seems to get results - more HYPOCRISY.
More- http://rense.com/general63/hyp.htm
==========
Terri Schiavo has died
Thursday, March 31, 2005 Posted: 10:07 AM EST (1507 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html
Angel of God, my guardian dear,
Lift up Terri upon your loving wings
Next to the face of the Most High and
Thrill her soul with His infinite Grace and
Compassion -- from now and throughout
all eternity, with Love without end.
Amen.
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell
========================
