-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [SAVE TERRI] ~ Autopsy Questions
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:42:26 EST
From: JaneyButtn@aol.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
I have not wanted to address the subject of an "autopsy for Terri." It sickens me to even think about it. However... I am merely a text book doctor when it comes to questions like this, so I need some help.
Am I wrong in believing... (or assuming) that it would be about next to impossible to get an "accurate" autopsy account on Terri's poor deprived body (should it come to that)? My oldest is going into forensic pathology, and I asked her help, because of her background in science, chemistry and medicine. She said the hydration part (or lack there of) would affect the organs first and foremost. And that the sustenance (or lack thereof) would affect the brain first and foremost.
However, both the starvation and dehydration will affect all of the organs (inside and out) as well as the brain. Therefore, doesn't it mean that the mere process of starvation and dehydration is going to cause brain damage?
Call me cynical, but I don't think an autopsy is going to help Terri's cause. And... if this is allowed to continue, and Terri is murdered this way, won't she have more brain damage from the process she is being forced to endure?
And... if that is the case, won't it just re-inforce Schiavo's claim of more brain damage than what the Schindlers (and many doctors and nurses and friends, etc) claim? Please someone help me understand this.
Keep the Faith!
Jane
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Subject: Terri- SHAM AUTOPSY INFO.
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:57:58 -0500
From: melissa roxanne melissa-roxanne@cfl.rr.com
Terri REALLY has a treatable medical condition with excess cerebrospinal fluid in the brain -
It's called non communicating hydrocephalus.
#1 Jesse Jackson is a high level Freemason
#2 Pinellas Co. ALL OFFICIALS HIGHLY CORRUPT! INCLUDING MEDICAL EXAMINER AND OTHERS INVOLVED WITH AUTOPSY!
#3 IF Terri is murdered, (PRAY FOR MIRACLES IN JESUS' NAME, THANK GOD IN JESUS' NAME FOR THE ONES HE HAS PERFORMED SO MANY TIMES ALREADY - PRAY HE WILL HEAL ANY ORGAN DAMAGE, ETC!) the autopsy will be a total sham. If not, it would never be allowed, as it would prove HYDROCEPHALUS, numerous fractures, spinal cord injury, unnaturally stiff neck injury, traumatic brain injury (last 3 = strangulation), severe contractures and spasticity due to neglect/withholding neccessary physical and occupational therapy, closed head injury.
She's also had her gall bladder removed, 2 DNC's, had toe removed due to neglect (bedsore), 5 teeth removed, no dental cleanings for at least a dozen years or more, no teeth brushing, no mammagraphy, no gynecological exams, NUMREOUS Urinary Tract Infections (point to neglect at hospice), at least one almost killed her due to Michael ordered all antibiotics withheld - doctors finally gave them to her to save her.
What will they find if they do SHAM autopsy?
TEETH- WILL HAVE ENAMEL DAMAGE FROM ACID FROM BULIMIA / THROWING UP TO PROVE THEIR PHONY DAMAGE CONTROL LIES ABOUT TERRI HAVING BULIMIA (Terri NEVER had bulimia!)
Brain will be either:
LIQUIFIED: (NOT EVEN POSSIBLE-BUT THEY ARE BLATANT LIARS/DAMAGE CONTROL/MIND CONTROL EXPERTS!) They actually CLAIM this NOW, though I doubt they will find that in the sham autopsy, IF she is murdered
(Keep praying for more miracles in Jesus' name and praise God in Jesus' name for all He has done for her including all of the miracles!)
Atrophied rain/cerebral cortex, most of her brain/cerebral cortex missing, brain full of spinal fluid (doubt they'll claim this after autopsy, though they do NOW, but don't tell you it's treatable and it's not really all FULL of spinal fluid - it just means MICHAEL HIT HER ON THE HEAD AND THAT HEAD TRAUMA CAUSED HYDROCEPHALUS! SO DID ELECTRODES MICHAEL HAD PUT IN HER BRAIN AND LEFT IN WITH NO MEDICAL FOLLOW UP ON PURPOSE - TO CAUSE HYDROCEPHALUS/INFECTION AND TO LATER REFUSE MRI'S DUE TO THESE IMPLANTS IN HER BRAIN! THEY CAN BE REMOVED AND THEN MRI COULD EASILY BE DONE!)
(All these are their damage control claims except for the truth that she has HYDROCEPHALUS, WHICH 1990 CT SCANS PROVE! THIS CT SCAN HYDROCEPHLAUS INFO JUST CAME OUT! Dr. Hammesfahr said she had H on 1-7-04 audio interview (see on my site), and I got someone to put it up online the other day, as only place it was took it down (hmmmmm), I also put up more evidence related to the audio / hydrocephalus. Notes on Hammesfahr audio have been up for a longgg time re: brain / hydrocephalus / not PVS, EEG done wrong, strangulation, much, much more!)
Bones- they will most likely claim she had something wrong with her bones to cover up the traumatic injuries such as broken bones all over her body... Felos already claimed this in court but I can't remember the exact condition he LIED about for DAMAGE CONTROL PURPOSES!
#4 THIS IS SUCH A HUGE NWO / GOV. OP THAT THERE WOULD BE NO WAY THEY WOULD GO ALL THESE YEARS GETTING AWAY WITH ALL OF THIS IN THIS CASE AND DONE TO TERRI AND NOTHING DONE TO JUDGES, INCLUDING GREER ESPECIALLY, MICHAEL, FELOS, HOSPICE, COLLUDERS, POLICE, MCCABE, CRIST, BUSH'S, DOCTORS WHO NEVER NOTIFIED DCF RE: INJURIES, DCF, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE INVESTIGATED ABUSE, ETC. ETC. AND THEN JUST LET THE TRUTH COME OUT FOR ONCE AFTER THEY MURDERED HER WITH FULL COOPERATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE BIGTIME OFFICIALS / POWERS THAT BE COVERING UP ALL OF THE EVIDENCE/BLOCKING ALL INVESTIGATIONS/NOT PROSECUTING/ALLOWING FOOD AND WATER TO BE ILLEGALLY WITHHELD THERFORE ALLOWING/CONSPIRING TO MURDER A HELPLESS DISABLED VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!
#5 ANYONE REMEMBER JFK ASSASSINATION? / AUTOPSY? / COVER UP EVER SINCE? (11-22-63 TILL NOW)
DESPITE REPEAT INVESTIGATIONS...
ALSO INVOLVED MURDER OF AT LEAST 200 WITNESSES / PPL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH! THERE WERE THOUSANDS IF NOT MORE THINGS THEY DID BUT HERE ARE JUST A FEW:
BRAIN WENT MISSING, THEY ACTUALLY USED 2 DIFFERENT CASKETS, FAKE PICTURES OF HIS HEAD, USED PUTTY TO COVER UP MASSIVE HEAD WOUNDS, LIED ABOUT THE # OF SHOOTERS (THERE WERE MORE THAN LIKELY 3 - NOT 1), LEE HARVEY OSWALD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SHOOTING WHATSOEVER OR THE COP'S MURDER AFTERWARDS - HE WAS THEIR PATSY AND THEY TOTALLY SET HIM UP FOR THE FALL, THEN MURDERED HIM IMMEDIATELY SO HE WOULD NOT TALK. THEY FAKED VIDEO FOOTAGE, PICTURES, IN OTHER WORDS THESE ARE EXPERTS AND THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING BRIBE, BRAINWASH, MURDER, THREATEN, BLACKMAIL, ETC. ETC.
I do not advise writing to medical examiner.
Melissa Roxanne Stanley / saveterrislife
http://saveterrislife.com
----- Original Message -----
From: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
To: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: ACTIONITEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PASS THIS TO ALL! FIRST LET ME SAY THIS... "DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE ON TERRI, PLEASE!! Be Advised, 2 days ago I requested that we contact Jesse Jackson (I REGRET that I didn't think about this sooner) Our calls and faxes and letters the last two days ... DID get Jesse Jackson's attention, he will be on site tomorrow 3/29/05 on behalf of Terri!!! WAY TO GO!!! Lisa
"A REQUEST, A PLEA if you will, REMEMBER THIS: we have NO RIGHTS OR SAY SO in this matter, please remember this!!!" And just so you all know, I AM SICK EVEN DOING THIS with Terri's heart still beating GOD BLESS HER, but I also know MS is always and has been 10 steps a head of all of us, especially the Lawyers! And her family is living and breathing every second for and with her! PLEASE KEEP THE PRAYERS GOING FOR THEM AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING OUR TERRI TOO.
Sample Letter to Send to Medical Examiner
Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D., District Chief Medical
Examiner 10900 Ulmerton Rd., Largo FL 33778 Telephone
#. (727) 582-6800 Fax # (727) 582-6820
mailto:wpellan@co.pinellas.fl.us
COPY AND PASTE IN YOUR OWN EMAIL PLEASE!
03/28/05
Dear Dr. Thogmartin:
Please, for the benefit and on behalf of Teresa Marie Schindler-Schiavo's family as well as all Florida Citizens, upon Terri's death please perform an appropriate investigation and/or postmortem examination to determine both the immediate cause of death AND the proximate cause of death, including and especially the search for any injuries from the "past" consistent with a potential Crime.
Despite the currently accepted rationale for her initial “event”, evidence on postmortem examination may reveal that Terri Schiavo was the victim of a Crime many years ago.
Advanced technology today allows the physical autopsy, to go beyond the scope of ALL opinions and hand on testing and examinations, particularly where there may be small or old injuries to ligaments and muscles that would be consistent with a Trauma that occurred due to a crime (e.g. strangulation or abuse) if one had occurred.
If there are perpetrators of a crime covering something up, they will not want such an extensive examination done. We only seek what is Right and Just here Dr. Thogmartin. I fully understand I am not a family member, nor a Phyician, so I come to you with great passion and concern. Please understand this.
Sincerely and Respectfully Yours,
_________ <--give your full info
================================================
CRIME TAKEN PLACE AT THIS MOMENT:
HOUSE SUBPOENA: Dated March 18, 2005
A LETTER FROM CONGRESS HAS ALSO BEEN ISSUED TO BOTH MICHAEL AND TERRI FOR THEM BOTH TO APPEAR ON MARCH 28, 2005 AT 10:00 AM FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO TAKE PLACE INTO NON-AMBULATORY CARE.
http://www.apfn.org/pdf/HouseSubpoenas.pdf
Terri & Michael should be arrested
Two counts of obstruction of justice;
one for killing the witness, two for
allowing the evidence to be destroyed
(cremated).
ARREST TERRI!......
Subject: [SAVE TERRI] ~ Autopsy Questions
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:42:26 EST
From: JaneyButtn@aol.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
I have not wanted to address the subject of an "autopsy for Terri." It sickens me to even think about it. However... I am merely a text book doctor when it comes to questions like this, so I need some help.
Am I wrong in believing... (or assuming) that it would be about next to impossible to get an "accurate" autopsy account on Terri's poor deprived body (should it come to that)? My oldest is going into forensic pathology, and I asked her help, because of her background in science, chemistry and medicine. She said the hydration part (or lack there of) would affect the organs first and foremost. And that the sustenance (or lack thereof) would affect the brain first and foremost.
However, both the starvation and dehydration will affect all of the organs (inside and out) as well as the brain. Therefore, doesn't it mean that the mere process of starvation and dehydration is going to cause brain damage?
Call me cynical, but I don't think an autopsy is going to help Terri's cause. And... if this is allowed to continue, and Terri is murdered this way, won't she have more brain damage from the process she is being forced to endure?
And... if that is the case, won't it just re-inforce Schiavo's claim of more brain damage than what the Schindlers (and many doctors and nurses and friends, etc) claim? Please someone help me understand this.
Keep the Faith!
Jane
Please ask your friends and family to join our boards too. The more people we have speaking as one, the louder we speak!
=================
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Terri- SHAM AUTOPSY INFO.
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:57:58 -0500
From: melissa roxanne melissa-roxanne@cfl.rr.com
Terri REALLY has a treatable medical condition with excess cerebrospinal fluid in the brain -
It's called non communicating hydrocephalus.
#1 Jesse Jackson is a high level Freemason
#2 Pinellas Co. ALL OFFICIALS HIGHLY CORRUPT! INCLUDING MEDICAL EXAMINER AND OTHERS INVOLVED WITH AUTOPSY!
#3 IF Terri is murdered, (PRAY FOR MIRACLES IN JESUS' NAME, THANK GOD IN JESUS' NAME FOR THE ONES HE HAS PERFORMED SO MANY TIMES ALREADY - PRAY HE WILL HEAL ANY ORGAN DAMAGE, ETC!) the autopsy will be a total sham. If not, it would never be allowed, as it would prove HYDROCEPHALUS, numerous fractures, spinal cord injury, unnaturally stiff neck injury, traumatic brain injury (last 3 = strangulation), severe contractures and spasticity due to neglect/withholding neccessary physical and occupational therapy, closed head injury.
She's also had her gall bladder removed, 2 DNC's, had toe removed due to neglect (bedsore), 5 teeth removed, no dental cleanings for at least a dozen years or more, no teeth brushing, no mammagraphy, no gynecological exams, NUMREOUS Urinary Tract Infections (point to neglect at hospice), at least one almost killed her due to Michael ordered all antibiotics withheld - doctors finally gave them to her to save her.
What will they find if they do SHAM autopsy?
TEETH- WILL HAVE ENAMEL DAMAGE FROM ACID FROM BULIMIA / THROWING UP TO PROVE THEIR PHONY DAMAGE CONTROL LIES ABOUT TERRI HAVING BULIMIA (Terri NEVER had bulimia!)
Brain will be either:
LIQUIFIED: (NOT EVEN POSSIBLE-BUT THEY ARE BLATANT LIARS/DAMAGE CONTROL/MIND CONTROL EXPERTS!) They actually CLAIM this NOW, though I doubt they will find that in the sham autopsy, IF she is murdered
(Keep praying for more miracles in Jesus' name and praise God in Jesus' name for all He has done for her including all of the miracles!)
Atrophied rain/cerebral cortex, most of her brain/cerebral cortex missing, brain full of spinal fluid (doubt they'll claim this after autopsy, though they do NOW, but don't tell you it's treatable and it's not really all FULL of spinal fluid - it just means MICHAEL HIT HER ON THE HEAD AND THAT HEAD TRAUMA CAUSED HYDROCEPHALUS! SO DID ELECTRODES MICHAEL HAD PUT IN HER BRAIN AND LEFT IN WITH NO MEDICAL FOLLOW UP ON PURPOSE - TO CAUSE HYDROCEPHALUS/INFECTION AND TO LATER REFUSE MRI'S DUE TO THESE IMPLANTS IN HER BRAIN! THEY CAN BE REMOVED AND THEN MRI COULD EASILY BE DONE!)
(All these are their damage control claims except for the truth that she has HYDROCEPHALUS, WHICH 1990 CT SCANS PROVE! THIS CT SCAN HYDROCEPHLAUS INFO JUST CAME OUT! Dr. Hammesfahr said she had H on 1-7-04 audio interview (see on my site), and I got someone to put it up online the other day, as only place it was took it down (hmmmmm), I also put up more evidence related to the audio / hydrocephalus. Notes on Hammesfahr audio have been up for a longgg time re: brain / hydrocephalus / not PVS, EEG done wrong, strangulation, much, much more!)
Bones- they will most likely claim she had something wrong with her bones to cover up the traumatic injuries such as broken bones all over her body... Felos already claimed this in court but I can't remember the exact condition he LIED about for DAMAGE CONTROL PURPOSES!
#4 THIS IS SUCH A HUGE NWO / GOV. OP THAT THERE WOULD BE NO WAY THEY WOULD GO ALL THESE YEARS GETTING AWAY WITH ALL OF THIS IN THIS CASE AND DONE TO TERRI AND NOTHING DONE TO JUDGES, INCLUDING GREER ESPECIALLY, MICHAEL, FELOS, HOSPICE, COLLUDERS, POLICE, MCCABE, CRIST, BUSH'S, DOCTORS WHO NEVER NOTIFIED DCF RE: INJURIES, DCF, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE INVESTIGATED ABUSE, ETC. ETC. AND THEN JUST LET THE TRUTH COME OUT FOR ONCE AFTER THEY MURDERED HER WITH FULL COOPERATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE BIGTIME OFFICIALS / POWERS THAT BE COVERING UP ALL OF THE EVIDENCE/BLOCKING ALL INVESTIGATIONS/NOT PROSECUTING/ALLOWING FOOD AND WATER TO BE ILLEGALLY WITHHELD THERFORE ALLOWING/CONSPIRING TO MURDER A HELPLESS DISABLED VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!
#5 ANYONE REMEMBER JFK ASSASSINATION? / AUTOPSY? / COVER UP EVER SINCE? (11-22-63 TILL NOW)
DESPITE REPEAT INVESTIGATIONS...
ALSO INVOLVED MURDER OF AT LEAST 200 WITNESSES / PPL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH! THERE WERE THOUSANDS IF NOT MORE THINGS THEY DID BUT HERE ARE JUST A FEW:
BRAIN WENT MISSING, THEY ACTUALLY USED 2 DIFFERENT CASKETS, FAKE PICTURES OF HIS HEAD, USED PUTTY TO COVER UP MASSIVE HEAD WOUNDS, LIED ABOUT THE # OF SHOOTERS (THERE WERE MORE THAN LIKELY 3 - NOT 1), LEE HARVEY OSWALD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SHOOTING WHATSOEVER OR THE COP'S MURDER AFTERWARDS - HE WAS THEIR PATSY AND THEY TOTALLY SET HIM UP FOR THE FALL, THEN MURDERED HIM IMMEDIATELY SO HE WOULD NOT TALK. THEY FAKED VIDEO FOOTAGE, PICTURES, IN OTHER WORDS THESE ARE EXPERTS AND THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING BRIBE, BRAINWASH, MURDER, THREATEN, BLACKMAIL, ETC. ETC.
I do not advise writing to medical examiner.
Melissa Roxanne Stanley / saveterrislife
http://saveterrislife.com
----- Original Message -----
From: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
To: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:34 PM
Subject: ACTIONITEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PASS THIS TO ALL! FIRST LET ME SAY THIS... "DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE ON TERRI, PLEASE!! Be Advised, 2 days ago I requested that we contact Jesse Jackson (I REGRET that I didn't think about this sooner) Our calls and faxes and letters the last two days ... DID get Jesse Jackson's attention, he will be on site tomorrow 3/29/05 on behalf of Terri!!! WAY TO GO!!! Lisa
"A REQUEST, A PLEA if you will, REMEMBER THIS: we have NO RIGHTS OR SAY SO in this matter, please remember this!!!" And just so you all know, I AM SICK EVEN DOING THIS with Terri's heart still beating GOD BLESS HER, but I also know MS is always and has been 10 steps a head of all of us, especially the Lawyers! And her family is living and breathing every second for and with her! PLEASE KEEP THE PRAYERS GOING FOR THEM AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING OUR TERRI TOO.
Sample Letter to Send to Medical Examiner
Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D., District Chief Medical
Examiner 10900 Ulmerton Rd., Largo FL 33778 Telephone
#. (727) 582-6800 Fax # (727) 582-6820
mailto:wpellan@co.pinellas.fl.us
COPY AND PASTE IN YOUR OWN EMAIL PLEASE!
03/28/05
Dear Dr. Thogmartin:
Please, for the benefit and on behalf of Teresa Marie Schindler-Schiavo's family as well as all Florida Citizens, upon Terri's death please perform an appropriate investigation and/or postmortem examination to determine both the immediate cause of death AND the proximate cause of death, including and especially the search for any injuries from the "past" consistent with a potential Crime.
Despite the currently accepted rationale for her initial “event”, evidence on postmortem examination may reveal that Terri Schiavo was the victim of a Crime many years ago.
Advanced technology today allows the physical autopsy, to go beyond the scope of ALL opinions and hand on testing and examinations, particularly where there may be small or old injuries to ligaments and muscles that would be consistent with a Trauma that occurred due to a crime (e.g. strangulation or abuse) if one had occurred.
If there are perpetrators of a crime covering something up, they will not want such an extensive examination done. We only seek what is Right and Just here Dr. Thogmartin. I fully understand I am not a family member, nor a Phyician, so I come to you with great passion and concern. Please understand this.
Sincerely and Respectfully Yours,
_________ <--give your full info
================================================
CRIME TAKEN PLACE AT THIS MOMENT:
HOUSE SUBPOENA: Dated March 18, 2005
A LETTER FROM CONGRESS HAS ALSO BEEN ISSUED TO BOTH MICHAEL AND TERRI FOR THEM BOTH TO APPEAR ON MARCH 28, 2005 AT 10:00 AM FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO TAKE PLACE INTO NON-AMBULATORY CARE.
http://www.apfn.org/pdf/HouseSubpoenas.pdf
Terri & Michael should be arrested
Two counts of obstruction of justice;
one for killing the witness, two for
allowing the evidence to be destroyed
(cremated).
ARREST TERRI!......
- Autopsy Should Be Done By Ouside Pathologist ONLY —Rita Hurst, Tue Mar 29 23:15
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