/s/: Darren
Re: Terri Schiavo
Thu Mar 24, 2005 16:32
64.140.158.232
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren [AvIntel & InfoEdge Groups] [mailto:avintel@netzero.com ]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:20 AM
To: 'letters@uniontrib.com'
Subject: Terri Schiavo
We were told after 9-11 that our country was united. I find our country
increasingly divided.
I am amazed listening to the majority of talk radio, over what appears
to be the intense battle over Terri Schiavo. I have not seen such
intense hatred of bipolar political ideology groups. Once intelligent
discussion seems to now be reduced on-air to name calling and yelling.
I'm about to fall into the very divisive trap myself by asking why so
many "conservative" and or "Christians" are ready to battle in support
of one life, Terri Schiavo, when they were no where to be found when we
were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis in the still
undefined war.
Popular talk hosts have been saying this fight for Terri Schiavo is now
an "epic war of good versus evil." I don't know if the evil part is
regarding Terri Schiavo or that so many Americans are fixated on what
the media dishes up (Michael Jackson, Scott Petersen, Terri
Schiavo)--hypnotically focusing on one life while wasting thousands of
others without conscience.
Do I sense an incredible oversight or diabolical dichotomy? AT THE VERY
LEAST: HYPOCRISY.
/s/: Darren [address & phone number omitted for group send]
===========================
REMEMBER WACO?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm
==============================
---
Yah know! The King and Queen of France had plenty of money and the
French Revolution didn't keep them alive with all their jewels, gold
and silver. I believe that the ability to protect one's own life is
the most valuable asset to have. In the United States of American it
used to be the belief that the "right to bear arms shall not be
infringed upon". The American People apparantly don't believe in the
right of self defense yet else the bullets would have started flying
like they did at Lexington and Concord, which was the shot heard
round the world. The only sound that is being heard right now is the
Death Bell Tolling for the first victim of the Reign of Terror in the
United States and that is that of Terry Shiavo.Just as the avengers
of the Alamo, the avengers of will carry the battle cry of REMEMBER
TERRY SHIAVO.
In apfn-1@yahoogroups.com, Andy wrote:
>
> Real Freedom
>
>
>
> Let's start with this: Money has two factors that define it. It
is a thing of beauty if you're mathematically or even poetically
inclined, because it's not one and it's not three. There are two
specific factors that indicate anything is money and they are: #1:
It has to have intrinsic value; and #2: It can't vary in quality.
>
>
>
> That's it. Everything in creation that has these two conditions,
is money. Everything that doesn't, isn't.
>
>
>
> Gold and silver have always been considered money in the history of
mankind in all cultures because they meet the two conditions, plus
they're handy. Actually, every element in the chemistry table of
elements other than carbon is money. Water is money. The only
reason you don't see people carrying gallons of water to the store to
pay for things is because it's not handy.
>
>
>
> Diamonds aren't money because, though they have intrinsic value,
they vary in quality.
>
>
>
> Federal Reserve Notes are not money because they don't have any
intrinsic value. They cost two cents to make regardless of
denomination. That's an obvious shocker to a lot of people - the
fact that someone actually makes a 98 cent profit on every dollar
bill; a $99.98 profit on every $100 bill.
>
>
>
> Presuming it is the government that does this (actually it's not -
the Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express - more on
that at another time), one might wonder why it (the government) needs
so much money in taxes, license & permit fees, citations, fines &
penalties and confiscations, and all the other perhaps subtler
methods it uses to remove us from our property.
>
>
>
> Federal Reserve Notes are negotiable instruments that discharge
debt, but they are not money. They are not backed by silver anymore
like they were in the days of the silver certificates, nor are they
backed by any other commodity that meets the definition of money.
The collateral for Federal Reserve Notes is the future labor of the
people of the United States as evidenced by the birth certificates.
That's a very loaded sentence that we will go into more in a minute,
but one of the keywords is future. In other words it doesn't exist
now, it may exist later. So Federal Reserve notes are in that
category of negotiable instruments called "promises to pay" or
promissory notes. They are debt instruments.
>
>
>
> In reality, we can't actually pay any debts anymore because all of
the real money has been extracted from society. All we can do now is
discharge debts. All we have to do it with is fake money or
counterfeit money. Federal Reserve Notes are counterfeit money.
>
>
>
> You may have noticed that there are so many other examples of real
things that have pretty much been replaced by their fake counterparts
in the past few generations. Prior to this century, for instance,
the only kind of food that existed was real - now it is quite a
challenge to go into a regular grocery store and buy any food that
has not been polluted by chemicals, insecticides, genetic engineering
or over-processing to an incredible extent. Some people don't even
know that real maple syrup comes from a tree. The brown sugar water
with chemicals in it that you are served in the House of Pancakes may
look like syrup, but it isn't.
>
>
>
> In a similar fashion, and just like we used to have real money
rather than fake money, we used to have real laws (implementing
regulations), rather than fake laws like Codes (color of law) that
are only applicable to corporate fictions. We also used to have real
titles to property rather than fake titles like deeds (color of
title). If you really own your land and have an allodial title to
it, you are not subject to building codes or property taxes. If you
only have a deed, the STATE really owns your land, and it you don't
pay the rent (property taxes), they will take it away from you. You
can be assured that Mr. Rockefeller has real title to his property.
>
>
>
> There are two of so many things these days - one that is real and
one that is fake.
>
>
>
> There are two "states" of whatever state you live in. There is one
that has hills and valleys and rocks and trees and dogs and cats and
people in it. There is another one that is a government entity, a
corporate fiction. When you fill out a government form that asks
you "Are you a resident of the State of California?", you may presume
you know what is meant by the word "resident" and the phrase "State
of California", but you should be sure before you sign that thing
under penalty of perjury.
>
>
>
> In the same way, there are in a way two of you. The real you was
created by your mother and father and God, and if somebody pinches,
you will feel it. There is another "you", believe it or not, that
was created by the STATE and is a corporate fiction.
>
>
>
> Have you ever noticed that whenever you receive a letter from a
creditor or debt collector or IRS, it's always addressed to your name
in all capital letters? Well, that's because that letter is not
addressed to you but to your STRAWMAN. On your personal checks
issued to you by your bank, your name and address are imprinted in
all capital letters for the same reason.
>
>
>
> You may decide you want to have the best mailbox on your block, so
you design and construct and paint this fabulous mailbox and you take
it out in front of your mansion and you pound it in to the ground on
your property. Who owns that mailbox? If one of your neighbors puts
a letter in that mailbox that does not have a stamp on it, they can
be fined or imprisoned for trespassing on government property.
>
>
>
> In the same way, you may have a birth certificate in your
possession - it has your name on it - you've had it for decades - you
value it - you keep it in your box of important documents. Guess who
owns that birth certificate. Of course, it is the STATE who own that
birth certificate. At the very best, you may get a certified copy.
The original is always kept in the Bureau of Vital Records in the
State you were born, in the Department of Commerce. Do you know why
in the Department of Commerce? Because your birth certificate, along
with all the other birth certificates, is the collateral for Federal
Reserve Notes.
>
>
>
> Effectively, your birth certificate is the STATE's certificate of
title over you.
>
>
>
> Now, how did you become chattel property of the STATE (being as the
Constitution supposedly forbids slavery)? The short answer is by
deceit and trickery. The STATE created a corporate fiction, your
STRAWMAN with that birth certificate, and as long as you don't know
the difference between that STRAWMAN and you the real, live human
being, the least common denominator is the STRAWMAN.
>
>
>
> When you're driving on the street, perhaps at a higher speed than
the posted so-called speed limit, but you haven't done any personal
or property damage, the reason a cop can stop you, hand you a bill at
gun point, and deny your rights to travel and due process in one fell
swoop, is because the cop is not dealing with you the real, live
human being, but only with the STRAWMAN.
>
>
>
> Remember we were taught back in the 8th Grade that there are three
branches of government - the Executive, the Judicial and the
Legislative? Well, where does the DMV or the IRS fit into that?
They don't. They're in what some people have come to call the quasi-
Fourth branch of government - the Administrative agencies. The
Administrative agencies would like you to believe they have
legislative authority over you. They don't. The only authority or
jurisdiction they can claim to have is in commerce, by contract, over
corporate fictions.
>
>
>
> The real you has God-given rights. It doesn't matter whether you
live in a country with a Constitution that supposedly protects those
rights or not. You have God-given rights just by being here. The
fake "you", the corporate fiction or STRAWMAN, doesn't have any God-
given rights, only benefits and obligations under contract, and
maybe "civil rights", a poor substitute (fake) for real rights.
>
>
>
> Civil rights may be politically correct, but they are counter to
nature and real rights. For instance it may be a civil right not to
be discriminated against because you have a pointy nose, but the
deeper (real, God-given) right is the right to associate with anyone
you want to and not to have to associate in any way with anyone you
don't want to. If you don't want to hire pointy nosed people just
because you don't like pointy nosed people, that is your God-given
right.
>
>
>
> God-given rights include the rights to livelihood, property,
travel, due process, sovereignty, happiness and health. These are
not STATE privileges.
>
>
>
> Knowledge really is power. It is important to know the difference
between what is real and what is fake, and it is also good to know
the rules. There are Constitutional experts in jail because they
didn't understand how they had contracted away their God-given rights
in exchange for STATE privileges. It's important to be familiar with
the Uniform Commercial Code, because this is the real rules on planet
Earth.
>
>
>
> One of the ten basic maxims of Commercial law is this: "An
unrebutted Affidavit is presumed to be true". What this means is
that whenever you get a bill, a fine, a penalty, assessment, or
demand or presentment in commerce of any sort, it behooves you to
respond to it timely, because if you don't - if you ignore it, you
acquiesce to the truth of it. You loose your due process, and it may
not have been true at all in the first place.
>
>
>
> The better way to play the commerce game is to respond timely and
request that your adversary respond timely to you as well.
Oftentimes it is ridiculously easy to pull the rug out from under an
IRS agent or a debt collector simply by making a righteous formal
request that they cannot or will not respond to.
>
>
>
> Did you know that there is no law that makes it mandatory for any
real, live human being to pay income taxes, have income taxes
withheld from one's pay, or even file tax returns? How could there
be? It is an obvious fact, and the Supreme Court has ruled very
clearly that when you file an income tax return, you are waiving your
5th Amendment Right to not testify against yourself. Certainly there
can be no law that makes it mandatory that anyone waive and rights.
>
>
>
> When many people get an inquiry from IRS asking them where their
tax return is, they panic and ignore it, and six weeks later they get
an unsigned assessment that contains added in fines and penalties -
they on the way to being liened or levied. [Actually, the IRS never
sends out real liens - only "Notices" of liens, but they usually get
the County Recorders to treat them as real liens anyway.]
>
>
>
> When you get a letter from IRS asking you where your tax return is,
you might write back very humbly, simply and immediately and give
them Power of Attorney to complete your tax return for you as long as
they sign it under penalty of perjury - you may never hear from them
again.
>
>
>
> Another way to illustrate using the maxim "An unrebutted Affidavit
is presumed to be true" is also an easy way to explain one approach
to terminating unsecured debt.
>
>
>
> Did you know that banks do not issue loans? This is a shocker to
many people, because we are taught to believe that if we want a loan,
we go to a bank. But banks don't issue loans and there is no
asterisk on that sentence. Banks are prohibited from loaning their
customer's assets because that would violate General Accounting
principles. They are prohibited from loaning their own assets
because that would violate Federal Reserve Regulations. What's
left? Nothing. Banks don't issue loans.
>
>
>
> What happens is when you leave the bank with a credit card
application or another type of co-called loan application, you are
actually giving the bank your promise to pay them with your signature
on it. It could be on a piece of toilet paper. It is a promissory
note that the bank cashes, and in a simple example, gives you a check
of equal value in return. They don't disclose that there wasn't
really any loan or any risk or collateral on their part and that they
merely paid a clerk $12 an hour or so to make an entry in a
computer. [This is what causes inflation because the so-called money
is created out of thin air.] Then they (the banks) violate usury and
racketeering laws all day every day by charging you principle and
interest on the fictitious "loan".
>
>
>
> One way to terminate this unsecured debt, without bankruptcy, is:
when your STRAWMAN gets the bill, send in a minimum payment with a
cover letter that says at the top "Notice of Final Payment". In this
half a page cover letter, make a formal request in commerce, that
they (the so-called creditor) answer your question, and your question
is where was the risk or the collateral for that so-called loan.
>
>
>
> Well, again, there was no loan; there was no risk, and there was no
collateral. They can't answer that question, and you end up creating
a new contract in which your STRAWMAN doesn't owe them anything
anymore that replaces the old contract in which your STRAWMAN might
have owed them thousands of dollars. This new contract is called a
novation.
>
>
>
> Evading responsibility is not being advocated by these prior
statements. Certainly if you have made a m
From: Darren [AvIntel & InfoEdge Groups] [mailto:avintel@netzero.com ]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:20 AM
To: 'letters@uniontrib.com'
Subject: Terri Schiavo
We were told after 9-11 that our country was united. I find our country
increasingly divided.
I am amazed listening to the majority of talk radio, over what appears
to be the intense battle over Terri Schiavo. I have not seen such
intense hatred of bipolar political ideology groups. Once intelligent
discussion seems to now be reduced on-air to name calling and yelling.
I'm about to fall into the very divisive trap myself by asking why so
many "conservative" and or "Christians" are ready to battle in support
of one life, Terri Schiavo, when they were no where to be found when we
were killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis in the still
undefined war.
Popular talk hosts have been saying this fight for Terri Schiavo is now
an "epic war of good versus evil." I don't know if the evil part is
regarding Terri Schiavo or that so many Americans are fixated on what
the media dishes up (Michael Jackson, Scott Petersen, Terri
Schiavo)--hypnotically focusing on one life while wasting thousands of
others without conscience.
Do I sense an incredible oversight or diabolical dichotomy? AT THE VERY
LEAST: HYPOCRISY.
/s/: Darren [address & phone number omitted for group send]
===========================
REMEMBER WACO?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm
==============================
---
Yah know! The King and Queen of France had plenty of money and the
French Revolution didn't keep them alive with all their jewels, gold
and silver. I believe that the ability to protect one's own life is
the most valuable asset to have. In the United States of American it
used to be the belief that the "right to bear arms shall not be
infringed upon". The American People apparantly don't believe in the
right of self defense yet else the bullets would have started flying
like they did at Lexington and Concord, which was the shot heard
round the world. The only sound that is being heard right now is the
Death Bell Tolling for the first victim of the Reign of Terror in the
United States and that is that of Terry Shiavo.Just as the avengers
of the Alamo, the avengers of will carry the battle cry of REMEMBER
TERRY SHIAVO.
In apfn-1@yahoogroups.com, Andy
>
> Real Freedom
>
>
>
> Let's start with this: Money has two factors that define it. It
is a thing of beauty if you're mathematically or even poetically
inclined, because it's not one and it's not three. There are two
specific factors that indicate anything is money and they are: #1:
It has to have intrinsic value; and #2: It can't vary in quality.
>
>
>
> That's it. Everything in creation that has these two conditions,
is money. Everything that doesn't, isn't.
>
>
>
> Gold and silver have always been considered money in the history of
mankind in all cultures because they meet the two conditions, plus
they're handy. Actually, every element in the chemistry table of
elements other than carbon is money. Water is money. The only
reason you don't see people carrying gallons of water to the store to
pay for things is because it's not handy.
>
>
>
> Diamonds aren't money because, though they have intrinsic value,
they vary in quality.
>
>
>
> Federal Reserve Notes are not money because they don't have any
intrinsic value. They cost two cents to make regardless of
denomination. That's an obvious shocker to a lot of people - the
fact that someone actually makes a 98 cent profit on every dollar
bill; a $99.98 profit on every $100 bill.
>
>
>
> Presuming it is the government that does this (actually it's not -
the Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express - more on
that at another time), one might wonder why it (the government) needs
so much money in taxes, license & permit fees, citations, fines &
penalties and confiscations, and all the other perhaps subtler
methods it uses to remove us from our property.
>
>
>
> Federal Reserve Notes are negotiable instruments that discharge
debt, but they are not money. They are not backed by silver anymore
like they were in the days of the silver certificates, nor are they
backed by any other commodity that meets the definition of money.
The collateral for Federal Reserve Notes is the future labor of the
people of the United States as evidenced by the birth certificates.
That's a very loaded sentence that we will go into more in a minute,
but one of the keywords is future. In other words it doesn't exist
now, it may exist later. So Federal Reserve notes are in that
category of negotiable instruments called "promises to pay" or
promissory notes. They are debt instruments.
>
>
>
> In reality, we can't actually pay any debts anymore because all of
the real money has been extracted from society. All we can do now is
discharge debts. All we have to do it with is fake money or
counterfeit money. Federal Reserve Notes are counterfeit money.
>
>
>
> You may have noticed that there are so many other examples of real
things that have pretty much been replaced by their fake counterparts
in the past few generations. Prior to this century, for instance,
the only kind of food that existed was real - now it is quite a
challenge to go into a regular grocery store and buy any food that
has not been polluted by chemicals, insecticides, genetic engineering
or over-processing to an incredible extent. Some people don't even
know that real maple syrup comes from a tree. The brown sugar water
with chemicals in it that you are served in the House of Pancakes may
look like syrup, but it isn't.
>
>
>
> In a similar fashion, and just like we used to have real money
rather than fake money, we used to have real laws (implementing
regulations), rather than fake laws like Codes (color of law) that
are only applicable to corporate fictions. We also used to have real
titles to property rather than fake titles like deeds (color of
title). If you really own your land and have an allodial title to
it, you are not subject to building codes or property taxes. If you
only have a deed, the STATE really owns your land, and it you don't
pay the rent (property taxes), they will take it away from you. You
can be assured that Mr. Rockefeller has real title to his property.
>
>
>
> There are two of so many things these days - one that is real and
one that is fake.
>
>
>
> There are two "states" of whatever state you live in. There is one
that has hills and valleys and rocks and trees and dogs and cats and
people in it. There is another one that is a government entity, a
corporate fiction. When you fill out a government form that asks
you "Are you a resident of the State of California?", you may presume
you know what is meant by the word "resident" and the phrase "State
of California", but you should be sure before you sign that thing
under penalty of perjury.
>
>
>
> In the same way, there are in a way two of you. The real you was
created by your mother and father and God, and if somebody pinches,
you will feel it. There is another "you", believe it or not, that
was created by the STATE and is a corporate fiction.
>
>
>
> Have you ever noticed that whenever you receive a letter from a
creditor or debt collector or IRS, it's always addressed to your name
in all capital letters? Well, that's because that letter is not
addressed to you but to your STRAWMAN. On your personal checks
issued to you by your bank, your name and address are imprinted in
all capital letters for the same reason.
>
>
>
> You may decide you want to have the best mailbox on your block, so
you design and construct and paint this fabulous mailbox and you take
it out in front of your mansion and you pound it in to the ground on
your property. Who owns that mailbox? If one of your neighbors puts
a letter in that mailbox that does not have a stamp on it, they can
be fined or imprisoned for trespassing on government property.
>
>
>
> In the same way, you may have a birth certificate in your
possession - it has your name on it - you've had it for decades - you
value it - you keep it in your box of important documents. Guess who
owns that birth certificate. Of course, it is the STATE who own that
birth certificate. At the very best, you may get a certified copy.
The original is always kept in the Bureau of Vital Records in the
State you were born, in the Department of Commerce. Do you know why
in the Department of Commerce? Because your birth certificate, along
with all the other birth certificates, is the collateral for Federal
Reserve Notes.
>
>
>
> Effectively, your birth certificate is the STATE's certificate of
title over you.
>
>
>
> Now, how did you become chattel property of the STATE (being as the
Constitution supposedly forbids slavery)? The short answer is by
deceit and trickery. The STATE created a corporate fiction, your
STRAWMAN with that birth certificate, and as long as you don't know
the difference between that STRAWMAN and you the real, live human
being, the least common denominator is the STRAWMAN.
>
>
>
> When you're driving on the street, perhaps at a higher speed than
the posted so-called speed limit, but you haven't done any personal
or property damage, the reason a cop can stop you, hand you a bill at
gun point, and deny your rights to travel and due process in one fell
swoop, is because the cop is not dealing with you the real, live
human being, but only with the STRAWMAN.
>
>
>
> Remember we were taught back in the 8th Grade that there are three
branches of government - the Executive, the Judicial and the
Legislative? Well, where does the DMV or the IRS fit into that?
They don't. They're in what some people have come to call the quasi-
Fourth branch of government - the Administrative agencies. The
Administrative agencies would like you to believe they have
legislative authority over you. They don't. The only authority or
jurisdiction they can claim to have is in commerce, by contract, over
corporate fictions.
>
>
>
> The real you has God-given rights. It doesn't matter whether you
live in a country with a Constitution that supposedly protects those
rights or not. You have God-given rights just by being here. The
fake "you", the corporate fiction or STRAWMAN, doesn't have any God-
given rights, only benefits and obligations under contract, and
maybe "civil rights", a poor substitute (fake) for real rights.
>
>
>
> Civil rights may be politically correct, but they are counter to
nature and real rights. For instance it may be a civil right not to
be discriminated against because you have a pointy nose, but the
deeper (real, God-given) right is the right to associate with anyone
you want to and not to have to associate in any way with anyone you
don't want to. If you don't want to hire pointy nosed people just
because you don't like pointy nosed people, that is your God-given
right.
>
>
>
> God-given rights include the rights to livelihood, property,
travel, due process, sovereignty, happiness and health. These are
not STATE privileges.
>
>
>
> Knowledge really is power. It is important to know the difference
between what is real and what is fake, and it is also good to know
the rules. There are Constitutional experts in jail because they
didn't understand how they had contracted away their God-given rights
in exchange for STATE privileges. It's important to be familiar with
the Uniform Commercial Code, because this is the real rules on planet
Earth.
>
>
>
> One of the ten basic maxims of Commercial law is this: "An
unrebutted Affidavit is presumed to be true". What this means is
that whenever you get a bill, a fine, a penalty, assessment, or
demand or presentment in commerce of any sort, it behooves you to
respond to it timely, because if you don't - if you ignore it, you
acquiesce to the truth of it. You loose your due process, and it may
not have been true at all in the first place.
>
>
>
> The better way to play the commerce game is to respond timely and
request that your adversary respond timely to you as well.
Oftentimes it is ridiculously easy to pull the rug out from under an
IRS agent or a debt collector simply by making a righteous formal
request that they cannot or will not respond to.
>
>
>
> Did you know that there is no law that makes it mandatory for any
real, live human being to pay income taxes, have income taxes
withheld from one's pay, or even file tax returns? How could there
be? It is an obvious fact, and the Supreme Court has ruled very
clearly that when you file an income tax return, you are waiving your
5th Amendment Right to not testify against yourself. Certainly there
can be no law that makes it mandatory that anyone waive and rights.
>
>
>
> When many people get an inquiry from IRS asking them where their
tax return is, they panic and ignore it, and six weeks later they get
an unsigned assessment that contains added in fines and penalties -
they on the way to being liened or levied. [Actually, the IRS never
sends out real liens - only "Notices" of liens, but they usually get
the County Recorders to treat them as real liens anyway.]
>
>
>
> When you get a letter from IRS asking you where your tax return is,
you might write back very humbly, simply and immediately and give
them Power of Attorney to complete your tax return for you as long as
they sign it under penalty of perjury - you may never hear from them
again.
>
>
>
> Another way to illustrate using the maxim "An unrebutted Affidavit
is presumed to be true" is also an easy way to explain one approach
to terminating unsecured debt.
>
>
>
> Did you know that banks do not issue loans? This is a shocker to
many people, because we are taught to believe that if we want a loan,
we go to a bank. But banks don't issue loans and there is no
asterisk on that sentence. Banks are prohibited from loaning their
customer's assets because that would violate General Accounting
principles. They are prohibited from loaning their own assets
because that would violate Federal Reserve Regulations. What's
left? Nothing. Banks don't issue loans.
>
>
>
> What happens is when you leave the bank with a credit card
application or another type of co-called loan application, you are
actually giving the bank your promise to pay them with your signature
on it. It could be on a piece of toilet paper. It is a promissory
note that the bank cashes, and in a simple example, gives you a check
of equal value in return. They don't disclose that there wasn't
really any loan or any risk or collateral on their part and that they
merely paid a clerk $12 an hour or so to make an entry in a
computer. [This is what causes inflation because the so-called money
is created out of thin air.] Then they (the banks) violate usury and
racketeering laws all day every day by charging you principle and
interest on the fictitious "loan".
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> One way to terminate this unsecured debt, without bankruptcy, is:
when your STRAWMAN gets the bill, send in a minimum payment with a
cover letter that says at the top "Notice of Final Payment". In this
half a page cover letter, make a formal request in commerce, that
they (the so-called creditor) answer your question, and your question
is where was the risk or the collateral for that so-called loan.
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> Well, again, there was no loan; there was no risk, and there was no
collateral. They can't answer that question, and you end up creating
a new contract in which your STRAWMAN doesn't owe them anything
anymore that replaces the old contract in which your STRAWMAN might
have owed them thousands of dollars. This new contract is called a
novation.
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> Evading responsibility is not being advocated by these prior
statements. Certainly if you have made a m
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