AssortedCol. Donn de GrandThu Aug 7 20:22:53 200364.160.164.12 http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/pen-l/2001m11.4/msg00108.htm PEN-Lmailing list archive [ Other Periods | Other mailing lists | Search ] Date: [ Previous | Next ] Thread: [ Previous | Next ] Index: [ Author | Date | Thread ] More conspiracy theory foolishness on 9-11To: pen-l Subject: More conspiracy theory foolishness on 9-11From: Michael Pugliese Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:55:45 -0800Cc: right-left Google Search: alt.politics.communismCourtesy Boudewijn Wegerif. Mark Jonessource on JP Morgan crashing. Richard K. Moore posts on WSN and writes forNew Dawn, a New Agey conspiracy theory rag from New Zealand.Michael Pugliese http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=alt.politics.communism&client=go oglet&selm=20011124.043612.492067917.6566%40blythe.orgGroupsBETA . Advanced Groups Search . Groups Help Search only in alt.politics.communism.* Search all groups Search theWebViewing message <20011124.043612.492067917.6566@blythe.org >From: All The News That Doesn't Fit (NY-Transfer-News@blythe.org )Subject: Who Was Really Responsible for September 11?Newsgroups: alt.journalism.print, alt.news-media, alt.politics.british,alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.communismView: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original FormatDate: 2001-11-24 01:30:26 PSTWho Was Really Responsible for September 11?Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't Fit[Please note that the sources cited herein are a very mixed bag andinclude crackpot conspiracy theorists as well as responsibleresearchers, LaRouchies, and others. Read with critical attention,and believe only after doing your own research.--NY Transfer]source - "Richard K. Moore" originally from "Boudewijn Wegerif" WHAT MATTERS-25 November 16, 2001Closing the file on who was responsible for the September 11 attacksLast week I promised that I would close the file on who wasresponsible for the September 11 attacks. The desk would then beclear for posting E-letters relating to other matters, especiallymoney matters.I wrote that there is no doubt in my mind that the bin LadenAl-Q'uaeda network is responsible, along with the CIA, or at leasta very powerful group within the CIA. I still think that, and herepresent the case.Underlying the CIA complicity in the September 11 attacks is aperceived need for a pseudo-democratic world dictatorship, topreserve the major corporations.The trigger for the attacks was the imminent and unstoppableworldwide financial collapse. The attacks were a shot in the armto keep corporate capitalism going a little longer, through massivearmaments and other contracts, handouts and tax rebates.THE HIJACKERS WERE PROBABLY THEMSELVES HIJACKEDAfter reading scores of e-mails about 9.11 in the last few weeks,it seems clear that the Al-Q'uaeda network was infiltrated andallowed to plot an extreme action against the U.S. by an enemy"inside the gates" that then took over the action at the lastminute.The FBI has made it known that at least 11 of the hijackers didnot know they were on a suicide mission (footnote 1).Items found among their possessions suggest they had been preparingthemselves for incarceration. One source said: "It looks as if theyexpected they might be going to prison, not paradise."And in an article No Suicide Pilots, Carol A. Valentine presentsa convincing argument that the four passenger planes were controlledby advanced robotics and remote-control technology, not the hijackerson board (footnote 2).Using "Global Hawk technology", planes can be commandeered andcontrolled remotely from the ground. She cites an InternationalTelevision News article, dated April 24, 2001, which describes howan unmanned craft was flown across the Pacific. In the article themanager of Global Hawk in Australia boasts, "The aircraft essentiallyflies itself, right from take-off, right through to landing, andeven taxiing off the runway."Carol Valentine is convinced that the fourth plane, which crashedinto an abandoned coal mine near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, was"shot" down. "The first TV network reports said exactly that: Flight93 had been shot down by a military jet." Despite local residentsseeing a second plane, possibly an F-16 fighter, in the area andburning debris falling from the sky, the FBI denied that the planehad been shot down and came up with implausible explanations; firstof their having been a bomb on board and then of the passengersoverwhelming the hijackers.A number of lists have carried an article by U.S. Army retiredColonel Donn de Grand Pri in which he describes how a group ofexperienced civilian and military pilots agreed, after 72 hours"of non-stop briefings and debate", that "the extremely skilfulmanoeuvring of the three aircraft at near mach speeds, each unerringlyhitting their targets, was superb." As one Air Force officer - aveteran of over 100 sorties over North Vietnam - explained, "Thosebirds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot inthe left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control."(footnote 3)The title of the article, The Enemy is Inside the Gates, reflectsthe group' s conclusion that the September 11 event was orchestratedfrom inside the U.S. by an "enemy" that has "infiltrated into thehighest policy-making positions at the Federal level, and hasabsolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troopbuild-up and deployment of our military forces, including active,reserve and National Guard units."SUSPICION FALLS ON ISRAELCarol Valentine implies that Israel was behind the action and quotesa September 10 front page story in The Washington Times in whichofficers of the U.S. Army's School of Advanced Military Studies(SAMS ) are quoted as saying of the Israeli intelligence serviceMossad agents that they are, "Wildcard, ruthless and cunning" andthat they have the capability of targeting US forces and making itlook like "a Palestinian/Arab act"."These SAMS officers are obviously interested in protecting theircountry," writes Valentine, "but not all Americans are. Some aretraitors and pay allegiance to Israel. Recall the June 8, 1967,Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, and American complicity in theattack. During the Six Day War, the Liberty, an American intelligencegathering ship, was sailing in international waters. Israeli aircraftand torpedo boats attacked it for 75 minutes. When four US fighterjets from a nearby aircraft carrier came to protect the Liberty,US Defense Secretary Robert McNamara ordered the jets NOT to cometo the Liberty's aid, and allowed the Israeli attack to continue.Thirty-four Americans were killed and 171 wounded." (footnote 4)Valentine also cites how in 1962, US military leaders designed aplan to conduct terrorist acts against Americans and blame Cuba,to create popular sentiment for invasion of that country. The planwas called Operation Northwoods and included * plans to shoot downa CIA plane designed to replicate a passenger flight and announcethat Cuban forces shot it down, * the creation of military casualtiesby blowing up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blaming Cuba("....casualty lists in the US newspapers would cause a helpfulwave of national indignation,"), and * the development of a terrorcampaign in the Miami and Washington, DC. (footnote 5)THE CIA CONNECTIONThe first real indication of possible CIA complicity in the September11 attacks came on October 31 when the French daily Le Figarocarried a story of how while in a Dubai hospital receiving treatmentfor a chronic kidney infection last July, Osama bin Laden met witha top CIA official - presumably the Chief of Station. The story inLe Figaro ends with an account of how when investigating the visitof the CIA agent to bin Laden, the FBI discovered certain plansthat had been put together between the CIA and its "Islamic friends"over the years. The paper concludes, "The meeting in Dubai is, soit would seem, consistent with a certain American policy."Investigative journalist Michael C. Ruppert develops on the themein an article titled Bin Laden Met with the CIA in July and WalkedAway (footnote 6):Ruppert describes how the meeting, held in bin Laden's privatesuite, took place at the American hospital in Dubai at a time whenbin Laden was a wanted fugitive for the bombings of two U.S.embassies and this year's attack on the U.S.S. Cole. "Bin Ladenwas eligible for execution according to a 2000 intelligence findingissued by President Bill Clinton before leaving office in January.Yet on July 14th he was allowed to leave Dubai on a private jetand there were no Navy fighters waiting to force him down."Ruppert lists crucial events both before and after the September11 suicide attacks, which have been blamed on bin Laden, to establishCIA foreknowledge of them. The list makes clear that the eventswhich have taken place since September 11 are based upon an agendathat has little to do with the attacks and everything to do withadvancing the fortunes of U.S. and U.K. oil companies and armamentsmanufacturers, with close links to the Bush family and their friends.Millions into billions of dollars were incidentally made on thestock exchange by insiders with foreknowledge of the attacks.Ruppert makes the point that the CIA and other intelligence agenciesclosely monitor stock trading in real time with highly advancedcomputer programmes so as to be able "to alert national intelligenceservices of just such kinds of attacks" . Yet nobody outside thiscircle was alerted by the unusually big insider trading in airlineand insurance stocks pre-September 11.There is mounting evidence that many, many people knew of theimpending attacks, from Muslim school boys in New York to thespeculators who were scared away from claiming a $2.5 million profiton put options on American Airlines and United Airlines. Yet weare asked to believe that the CIA and FBI knew nothing about wascoming.In his article Ruppert records several visits by George Bush seniorto the bin Laden family and royalty in Saudi Arabia between 1998and 2000 for the Carlyle Group, the 11th largest arms manufacturerin the U.S. The close bond between the CIA and Pakistan's ISI secretservice at a time when the ISI was equally closely connected tothe Taliban and bin Laden is also described.The CIA/ISI connection is taken up more fully by Michel Chossudovsky,Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa in an article,The Role of Pakistan's Military Intelligence Agency (ISI) (footnote7).Chossudovsky writes that Pakistan's chief spy Lt. General MahmoudAhmad "was in the US when the attacks occurred." He arrived in theUS on the 4th of September, a full week before the attacks. He hadmeetings at the State Department "after" the attacks on the WTC.But he also had "a regular visit of consultations" with his UScounterparts at the CIA and the Pentagon during the week prior toSeptember 11.According to Chossudovsky, the Bush Administration consciously tookthe decision in "the post September 11 consultations" with Lt.General Mahmoud Ahmad to directly "cooperate" with Pakistan'smilitary intelligence (ISI) despite its links to Osama bin Ladenand the Taliban and its alleged role in the assassination of theleader of the Northern Alliance, Commander Masood, which coincidentallyoccurred two days before the terrorist attacks.Chossudovsky gives details from an Indian intelligence report thatindicate pretty conclusively that "the perpetrators of the September11 attacks had links to Pakistan's ISI, which in turn has links toagencies of the US government. What this suggests is that keyindividuals within the US military-intelligence establishment mighthave known about the ISI contacts with the September 11 terrorist"ring-leader" Mohamed Atta and failed to act."Chussodovsky concludes, "Whether this amounts to the outrightcomplicity of the Bush Administration remains to be firmly established.What is crystal clear, however, is that this war is not a "campaignagainst international terrorism"as claimed by The Bush administration. It is a war of conquest withdevastating consequences for the future of humanity."THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW"Are you less than satisfied with the official explanations about9/11?" asks Robert Lederman, columnist for the Greenwich VillageGazette and other papers, in the most comprehensive overview ofthe September 11 attacks that I have seen (footnote 8).Lederman, who is also president of A.R.T.I.S.T. (Artists' ResponseTo Illegal State Tactics), provides evidence in support of "ninefor the moment relatively unpopular but nevertheless compellingideas to consider about the attack".He comments, "Americans who tend to believe in any or all them arein the minority right now. Perhaps they won't be in the near future."The nine ideas, with connecting links to URLs, are:1. This new war is not a conflict between Islamic fundamentalismand American freedom.2. The destruction of the WTC was anticipated, and might havebeen preventable.3. The Rockefeller connection may be the key to unlocking anunderstanding of this entire issue. Why has their connection tothe WTC been omitted from 99.999% of the media coverage about 9/11?4. Anthrax may not be getting sent to the media and to Congressby terrorists.5. This conflict is about oil not terrorism, Israel or Islam.6. Are we bombing the wrong country?7. Bush is not doing a good job of protecting America. It wouldbe far more accurate to say he's doing a good job of destroyingit.8. There is an occult aspect to the attacks which cannot beignored or attributed to coincidence.9. NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani did not unify New York City, but hasdone everything in his power to destroy the electoral process andguarantee future social chaos."Every one of these ideas has voluminous documentation which canbe found in the mainstream media, on the net or in reputable booksif one looks for it," writes Lederman. He goes on to give selectedreferences "from which you can learn more". And comments, "Whileto some it may seem unpatriotic to question the government's actionsat this time of crisis let us remember that the original purposeof free speech was to enable Americans to ask exactly these kindof unpopular questions of our elected leaders. Real unity cannotbe based on deceiving the American people."Once again, I wish to thank Jean Hudon who is responsible forthe 2,000 strong Earth Rainbow Network list, as also media analystRobert Rodvick, David Weston, Dick Eastman and Frans Ytterhoeven,for forwarding the e-mails from which I have pieced together thisE-letter. To be on their lists, e-mail them at the addresses infootnote 9.In What Matters-26, which is almost completed, I provide a miscellanyof alternative news items that underscore the need for somethingakin to Ghandi 's Satyagraha truth-bearing movement and MartinLuther King's civil rights movement, to liberate the world fromthe corporate capitalist money beast.After WM-26, I will be posting excellent monetary overview articlesby Margaret Legum and J. Walter Plinge.In friendship,Boudewijn Wegerif, What Matters Programme Folkhogskola Vardingeby** FOOTNOTES: 1. http://observer.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,573707,00.html 2 .http://www.eyesonamerica.org/200110/10110101.html 3. http://www.cybernaute.com/earthconcert2000/BigBrother9.htm 4. http://ennes.org 5."Body of Secrets," by James Bamford (Doubleday, 2001), and URLs, http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.md.nsa24apr24.story http://www.earlham.edu/archive/opf-l/May-2001/msg00062.html http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/ 6. http://www.copvcia.com 7. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html 8 .http://baltech.org/lederman/9-11-unpop
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