www.saudi-binladin-group.com

i did a little search on this web page.
This is kinda long, but the first 1/2 may be valuable...

for those who didnt know
www.saudi-binladin-group.com
was registared from sept11th 200 to sept 11th 2001
it was $35 to renew, but they never did. this is a BIG company so it raised red flags.
( you will find it in some of the 911 oddity pages...)
online blogs had the old info...

Fo those that already know this story, the update is i found who the original Registrant was and what he is up to now...

Lumsden, Philip

Registrant:
Saudi Binladin Group (SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP2-DOM)
Prince Abdullah Street Jeddah, 21492 SA
Domain Name: SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact: *Lumsden, Philip* (PLP239) philip@ARQ.CO.UK
Arq Limited

The Old Post Office George Street Bath, BA1 2EB
UK 01224 312 391
Record last updated on 11-Sep-2000.
Record expires on 11-Sep-2001.
Record created on 11-Sep-2000.
NS0-S.DNS.PIPEX.NET 158.43.129.83
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Now, it gets interesting.

This was no accident, according to a VeriSign technician in Mountainview, Calif.
"This was timed so it would expire on that date," says the technician, who identified herself only by
her first name, Antonette, and by her employee number, 001. Antonette also verified that the information
listed in the whois search was accurate and not tampered with by an outside party. Antonette added that
VeriSign had already been contacted by law enforcement about other attack-related domain names the
company had registered.
"I had a call from the L.A. police," she said. "He was also asking about a domain name that expired on
Sept. 11. I can’t remember the name of it, but it had something to do with the WTC."

he Binladin website was created by a company called Arq Limited, a U.K. web design firm. The
administrative, technical and billing contact listed on the whois search is a man named Philip Lumsden.
After several calls to the U.K., I learned that Arq Limited went out of business, replaced by a company
called *Active 8 Solutions*, which shares the same Bath, England, mailing address and a telephone number
that is only one digit off from Arq Limited’s old number.
I learned one more interesting thing.
"*Mr. Lumsden* left a week ago," said a man who answered the phone at Active 8 Solutions. "I am not aware
of why he left."
The man, who would not give his name, added that he had "no clue" about the saudi-binladin-group.com site.

http://www.freedomdomain.com/Templemount/10_18a.html

OK, so what ?
Well,i found the original contact name...
Lumsden, Philip (PLP239) philip@ARQ.CO.UK

It is now....
Philip Lumsden
CyberSol
pcybersol@onetel.net.uk
ph - + 44 (0) 7968 019 205
www.cybersol-ltd.co.uk

TeleMedic Systems Ltd
4, Dunkleys Way
Taunton
Somerset
TA1 2LX, UK
Tel: + 44 (0) 8701 417330
Fax: + 44 (0) 8701 417425
Email: info@telemedicsystems.com
Web: www.telemedicsystems.com

and look at what he is up too ???

http://www.telemedicsystems.com/corpsite/main/tms/press_releases.htm

TeleMedic Systems signs up CyberSol Ltd to deal with business in the Middle East.

CyberSol Ltd and TeleMedic Systems recently signed an agreement for CyberSol to be a distributor of VitalLink to the Middle East.

CyberSol bring together the skills of their technology partners in order to deliver and integrate computer and communications solutions for harsh and extreme conditions. CyberSol are the leading provider of rugged solutions for remote areas and as part of their portfolio wanted to present their customers with the perfect remote medical monitoring solution.

CyberSol offer the total solution for mobile or remote units where communication is limited. With the use of the Iridium or Inmarsat service, communication can be delivered to the remote area and customers can carry on working in their remote office.

**Philip Lumsden**, Managing Director, CyberSol said, "VitalLink is the perfect tool to have on the CyberSol product list as it is rugged, robust and gives customers peace of mind when they are in remote areas that they are close to medical help, any time, anywhere." With customers covering all areas including military, law enforcement and national security agencies, emergency services, utilities, industrial, oil and gas exploration and processing, and healthcare CyberSol have the contacts for the remote medical solution
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suggested reading, theres more here...
http://citypaper.net/articles/101801/sl.howcol.shtml

Charles Boncelet, a University of Delaware computer and information sciences professor, is an expert on steganography. Does Boncelet think that happened with saudi-binladin-group.com, which was created by a U.K. web-design firm called Arq Limited?

At first blush, he said no.

"My guess is that it is a coincidence," said Boncelet. Then, later in our conversation, he acknowledged that not only would that have been "a hell of a coincidence," but "it may be more. The date suggests that they would know a year in advance what they would do, if that is how they were trying to communicate."

There are a lot of strange coincidences when it comes to saudi-binladin-group.com.

Which brings us to the mysterious case of Paul Gabelia.
According to a police report, on Sun., Sept. 1, 1996, Fairfax County, Va., police discovered human remains in the trunk of a 1991 silver Mercury Sable sedan that had been on fire. The body’s feet and knees were bound with wire, and jumper cables were wrapped around its neck. Its hands appeared to be free.
A search of motor-vehicle records showed that the car belonged to an Alexandria, Va., attorney named Paul Gabelia and his wife, Nam Dong Kim. At 2 a.m., Sept. 2, Detective R.J. Murphy arrived at the couple’s home, knocked on the door and was greeted by an Asian female wearing blue shorts and a white T-shirt who appeared to have just woken up.
The woman walked past the front door, into the kitchen, shut off the garage light and opened the front door.
"You’re here about my husband," said the woman, Gabelia’s wife Nam Dong Kim. She opened the door and let the officers in. Kim told the police that her husband had left home about 2:30 p.m. on Sept. 1 to attend a business meeting "with some Syrian businessmen," according to the police report. Kim "did not know where this meeting would take place, but stated that Gabelia would frequently meet international businessmen at hotels near National or Dulles airports … [she] stated that Gabelia told her about the Syrians recently and had expressed his suspicion that the source of their money was not legitimate and that he planned to confront them about that."
Kim consented to a search of her house, but she wouldn’t let police examine Gabelia’s computer or a number of life insurance policies. Kim also told police that she and her husband were experiencing "marital difficulties, but, nothing serious and they would argue occasionally." She added that she and her two children had gone to bed about 11:30 p.m. and that she was worried.
Kim "was cooperative and appeared truthful," Murphy noted in his report.The next day, medical examiner Frances Field found the cause of death to be strangulation.
MORE>>>
http://citypaper.net/articles/102501/sl.howcol.shtml

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OK, besides that, when i started, i did a search for
http://www.arq.co.uk/

The June2001 editition comes up OK....
http://web.archive.org/web/20010616080655/http://www.arq.co.uk/

NOW, when i did that, i got a security warning from Zone alarm.
This is where the warning came from....

http://www.us-saudi-business.org/

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This is about the guy who bought the old domain name
www.saudi-binladin-group.com
(check what he put up there now)
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Last week, Curry bought saudi-binladin-group.com, the domain registered on Sept. 11, 2000, with a preset
expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001."I was tracking the Internet to get some information about the
Binladin firm when I realized the names were about to expire," Curry says via an early morning phone
call from his home in Los Angeles
Dr. Neil Livingstone, CEO of Global Options, a Washington, D.C.-based counterterrorism and
investigations company, has looked into a number of potentially attack-related domain names registered
well before Sept. 11, 2001.
He had not heard of the domain name Curry now owns and, initially, was intrigued.
http://citypaper.net/articles/110101/sl.howcol.shtml
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So i did a lookup on him...

http://www.shrimpo.com/
Registrant:
shrimpo LLC
11271 Ventura Boulevard #236
Studio City, California 91604
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: SHRIMPO.COM
Created on: 10-May-99
Expires on: 10-May-07
Last Updated on: 25-Oct-04
Curry, Christopher domains@shrimpo.com
Georgia - Atlanta - Big Pipe Inc
NS1.WEBCORELABS.COM NS2.WEBCORELABS.COM
ICANN Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.

66.244.238.73
OrgName: Big Pipe Inc.
OrgID: BGPP
Address: Suite 400
Address: 630 - 3rd Ave. SW
City: Calgary
StateProv: AB
PostalCode: T2P-4L4
Country: CA
Created: 10-may-1999
Expires: 10-may-2007
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
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Here is some FYI, old archives from the site before it went down...

First, on one of the old pages i found some comapny names (partners)
CATALYST TECHNOLOGY INC.
which (i THINK ?) has to do with palladium in cadalityic converters, and other things.
its quite expensive
That brought me to these people...
http://www.stillwatermining.com/

Another name was...
H.C. Price Company
WHAT'S AHEAD IN 2000
Contractor expects a pretty good year ahead
H. Charles Price, Chairman of the Board of H.C. Price Company, Dallas, Texas, and President of the Pipe
Line Contractors Association H. Charles Price is chairman of the board of H.C. Price Co., Dallas, Texas. He was born in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and has spent his entire professional career in the pipeline construction business, beginning in 1975 when he worked on Section No. 3 of the Trans Alaska Pipeline System.
http://www.pipe-line.com/archive/archive_00-01/00-01_what-staff_A8.htm

Rense already has some of this info here...
http://www.rense.com/general14/willsomedare.htm
more here...
CHENEY'S GAS PLANT IN TURKMENISTAN
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=20739

if interested, more here possibally linking the whole thing to anthrax...
http://citypaper.net/articles/2002-06-06/pretzel.shtml
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Binladin Telecommunications Company
Jan2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124032300/http://www.saudi-binladin-group.com/btc-a.htm
Operating through the Inmarsat satellite network, ensures the international voice, fax and data networks are never out of range
Digital Telecommunications and Switching Systems - the world's leading supplier, providing products and services to telephone operating companies, corporations, governments, universities and other institutions in more than 90 countries world-wide

United Transport Company
Overland transportation and customs clearance based on Jeddah.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010303111919/www.saudi-binladin-group.com/dir-serv.htm

(one big questin about 911, was if the saudi group had anything to do with irridium satellites)
I have a technical background, and irridium never made sense to me. it was a TON of money, and looked like a white elephant coming.
It never made money.
They were made to give cell phone users ability to make calls ANYWHERE, in the jungle, or IN THE SKY ?

http://web.archive.org/web/20010119072400/www.saudi-binladin-group.com/btc.htm
Saudi Binladin Group is also a partner in the Iridium Project which will ultimately provide mobile phone users with a global communication facility.
See the companies they represent. Saudi Binladin Group is also a partner in the Iridium Project which will ultimately provide mobile phone users with a global communication
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current...

www.active8solutions.com = [ 65.61.216.123 ] Registrant:
Active 8 Solutions
3193 Wexford Walk Dr.
Box 123
Smyrna Georgia 30080
US
Domain name: ACTIVE8SOLUTIONS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Schnyder Aaron aschnyder@charter.net
In2net Network Inc. IN2NETWORK (NET-65-61-192-0-1)
65.61.192.0 - 65.61.255.255
Doteasy Technology Inc. IN2NET-65-61-216-0 (NET-65-61-216-0-1)
65.61.216.0 - 65.61.216.255