Re: [FIREBASEVOICE] Depleted Uranium - COINTELPRO "Roger HelbigMon Jan 1, 2007 16:48-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [FIREBASEVOICE] Depleted Uranium - COINTELPRO "Roger Helbig"
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 06:49:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Johnny Waltz
To: Roger Helbig email@example.com
CC: FIREBASE_ATLANTA@yahoogroups.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, FIREBASEVOICE@yahoogroups.com, Firebase Chat email@example.com
TO ALL TRUE VETERANS IN THE FIREBASE NETWORK.. I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY THREATENED BY ROGER HELBIG FOR INVOKING MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS.. HERE IS HIS EMAIL AND MY FOLLOW UP REPLY.
Seaman Walz, you are treading on dangerous ground. "Beyond Treason" is pretty much without merit. I can not give you a detailed line by line rebuttal because I have not actually seen it, but I have dealt with Dennis Kyne, Douglas Rokke and Leuren Moret. Each of the three falsely claims properties of depleted uranium that are not true and falsely claims to have credentials that they do not possess. If that is your sole source of information, and it costs money to get the DVD, then you need to look elsewhere. You came on as a seeker of truth, but you already had your mind made up and now you are slandering me. I guess I will have to contact my relatives in Ohio. I happen to have roots in Cincinnati that go back before the Civil War. My great-grandfather's tombstone is in German and a distant relative married a Confederate Prisoner of War and moved to Baton Rouge. If anyone has a spare copy of this Beyond Treason DVD, I sure would appreciate it. Let me know and I will give you a mailing address. I am not about to put one plugged nickel in the Joyce Riley, Rokke, Moret, Kyne warchest. Unlike them, I am not selling anything; no one pays me to write to the net and no one has ever paid me to travel the globe and speak. I once offered to write the definitive books on both DU and 9/11 if someone wanted to foot the bill - back then, I was unemployed, but now I have a full-time responsible job and I will have that job until I decide to finally retire.
Roger W Helbig
PS .. grow up and stop shouting .. it is bad internet manners.
I will make this simple.. you slandered me first by criticizing my work and making false statements about me. second of all I do not get paid for my writing and it is strictly voluntary. My information did not come from Beyond Treason but after writing this article and then watching the video the pieces all come together. Believe what you like and there is no reason to go on this tirade. I have my stance on this issue and you have yours.. so be it.
you are further trying to slander me by saying you had a full time responsible job.. well so did I till September 1, 2006. That is the day I started having seizures and have one gran mal style seizure daily. If there is no such thing as Gulf War Illness or you say there is no hazards from DU then how do you explain my brain tumor, brain lesion, and liver failure to name a few things. I did not ask to be sick and if I had my way I would be working also but I have several VA and civilian doctors that will not let me and in fact I have 24 hour supervision.
lastly I see no reason to throw senseless threats around that you have family here.. This is a case of one person having a differing opinion.. and for my manners.. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS GRAND.. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
This will be my last rebuttal to you so enjoy.
Disabled Veteran, US Navy
Special Assignment Writer, Firebase Network/OFFE
Kentucky Director, Order of the Silver Rose
PS: For you to personally threaten me about having family where I live is against the law and the authorities have been contacted.
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